SilentNinj
2014-10-13T15:19:09Z
While there Might be some debate on where the Old yugioh ended, Lets say for the sake of arguement it was before XYZ's.



So did you guys prefer the Old Yugioh or the New Yugioh?






In my Opion the key difference is both the pace and way the game was played.

Old Style = massive deck strats, Games actually had stages

New Style = Spam summon, Spam Remove everything, Spam OTKs
TheExceeder
2014-10-13T15:36:06Z
While I disagree with where you draw the line on "Old vs New" (since I consider each era to be different), I would say I have a soft spot for the older days, but the new era also brought with it some fun mechanics that, if you're just playing friendlies and neither person overuses spam-decks, aren't a problem.
Emiliavance
2014-10-14T08:10:35Z
I should say that I agree with TheExceeder right there. However, if I am to draw a line between the old days and the new days, the old days would be before Synchro. The playstyle differs greatly between the GX and 5D's era.

Though to be a Honest, I myself split the "days" by the series/prominent theme (The Old Days, the GX Days, the Synchro Days, the Zexal Days, and the Arc-V Days respectively)

I hardly compare the "daylines" though, each of them has their own pluses and minuses;

The Old Days (Before GX):
(+) Peaceful gameplay (Outside the tourney, at least)
(+) NOSTALGIA FACTOR is too stronk! XD

(-) Very, very little variation
(-) Game gets shallow pretty quick, should find an innovation immediately


The GX Days:
(+) A bit faster gameplay than the previous Days
(+) Mill Deck is still something

(-) Still very little variation
(-) Unbalanced support for summon types (Why hello there, Rituals...)


The Synchro Days (5D's era):
(+) Innovative, groundbreaking aspect of the game is introduced that would change the game forever
(+) Fast-paced games that are still fun to play

(-) Mill Decks are not so relevant anymore
(-) Too much focus on Synchro itself


The Zexal Days:
(+) Introduced some cool cards, and the Xyz Mechanic
(+) Finally, some more variation

(-) Speed too fast to be taken if just starting
(-) Very unbalanced support in Summoning types (Why hello there, Rituals...)


The Arc-V Days:
Can't judge too much because it's still just started recently

(+) Rainbow-colored variations~
(+) Vibrant mechanics and reviving of the card game as a whole

(-) Power creep is very visible
(-) Speed of light if playing tourneys
Link is the new Synchro, because it changes the definition of "Classic" in Yu-Gi-Oh!
Eps
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2014-10-14T09:32:36Z
Well, in the GX era and before it seemed like you could use pretty much any card and still have a somewhat viable deck, whereas nowadays you can only really compete with very specific ones. But that was just an illusion. In reality, much of the competition in "the old days" revolved around using very specific, broken gimmick decks that won either through an infinite loop or a total lockdown (the key pieces of which now reside permanently in the banlist). And then came the whole Gladiator Beast fiasco, and by the time it ended we were already in the new age of Synchro.

So, when you think about it, competitively, the new era is actually better. Yes, the new archetypes always seem overpowered. But that's better than having to compete with insta-win combos.

As for the casual side of things? As others have already said, the new mechanics actually make it a lot more interesting. The "old" way of Yu-Gi-Oh was very slow and didn't have that much variety. If you play a friendly match now, you can expect every turn to be full of surprises.
YamiJustin
2014-10-14T12:32:13Z
I prefer the old days. By old days I mean the original and GX era. Back then people made decks with their favourite cards.

Now all decks are based on the mechanic of the deck. People just want the best.
TheExceeder
2014-10-14T13:37:02Z
I'll also add: Competitively the only thing that's changed is that since the ZeXal era, you can now lose a competitive duel in 1 or 2 turns, which is ludicrous and the reason I stopped playing and instead decided to just make my own Duelist of the Roses board and sit around wishing I had friends to play it with.
Crispoz
2014-10-14T15:48:39Z
Originally Posted by: Eps 

Well, in the GX era and before it seemed like you could use pretty much any card and still have a somewhat viable deck, whereas nowadays you can only really compete with very specific ones. But that was just an illusion. In reality, much of the competition in "the old days" revolved around using very specific, broken gimmick decks that won either through an infinite loop or a total lockdown (the key pieces of which now reside permanently in the banlist). And then came the whole Gladiator Beast fiasco, and by the time it ended we were already in the new age of Synchro.

So, when you think about it, competitively, the new era is actually better. Yes, the new archetypes always seem overpowered. But that's better than having to compete with insta-win combos.

As for the casual side of things? As others have already said, the new mechanics actually make it a lot more interesting. The "old" way of Yu-Gi-Oh was very slow and didn't have that much variety. If you play a friendly match now, you can expect every turn to be full of surprises.



I completely agree with him.
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SurgeonMaster
2014-10-14T21:52:47Z
The old era, always. now every time you will play with a deck that isn´t in the meta, you lose, all players play with broken decks and cards, and destroy the funny decks in open and close of eyes.

I hate yugi right now, but thankfully I have friends with what I can play with funny decks.
Emiliavance
2014-10-15T14:39:41Z
Originally Posted by: Eps 

Well, in the GX era and before it seemed like you could use pretty much any card and still have a somewhat viable deck, whereas nowadays you can only really compete with very specific ones. But that was just an illusion. In reality, much of the competition in "the old days" revolved around using very specific, broken gimmick decks that won either through an infinite loop or a total lockdown (the key pieces of which now reside permanently in the banlist). And then came the whole Gladiator Beast fiasco, and by the time it ended we were already in the new age of Synchro.



For me it's not an illusion. It war more of a veiled barrier thingy created by the banlist that keeps people from seeing the ugly things that are Pot of Greed and Painful Choice. I (and my friends) can't feel that, because Indonesia was secluded from the yugioh world before The Internet Advent and we are stuck with 7 Colored Fish and Insect Knight for some shy 6+ years.

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So, when you think about it, competitively, the new era is actually better. Yes, the new archetypes always seem overpowered. But that's better than having to compete with insta-win combos.



Of course, as we don't want to see Object 2539 (Yata-Garasu) and Object 2540 (Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End) side by side. They must never come together.

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As for the casual side of things? As others have already said, the new mechanics actually make it a lot more interesting. The "old" way of Yu-Gi-Oh was very slow and didn't have that much variety. If you play a friendly match now, you can expect every turn to be full of surprises.



Exactly my point. Exactly. [:laugh:]
Link is the new Synchro, because it changes the definition of "Classic" in Yu-Gi-Oh!
Freddx
2014-10-15T14:44:52Z
Originally Posted by: SurgeonMaster 

The old era, always. now every time you will play with a deck that isn´t in the meta, you lose, all players play with broken decks and cards, and destroy the funny decks in open and close of eyes.

I hate yugi right now, but thankfully I have friends with what I can play with funny decks.




But in the old era there were broken cards and decks too, and decks can win a turn, like Makyura OTK, Cyber-Stein OTK, Magican Scientist OTK, DDT (and Air Blade Turbo), Demise OTK, Lightsworn (2008), TeleDAD too have OTK, Zombie Diva, Cyber Dragon OTK, Synchro-Cat and more decks, maybe you don't know the old YuGiOh meta.

A lot of players think that Old Era haven't meta, but well the old era have meta decks too, the play style would be different than today but there were broken decks too, PLEASE people don't think that YGO in a old era were so different if don't know the meta in that time.
Freddx
2014-10-15T14:49:15Z
I prefer the old era Between 2007 and 2010, the Synchro Age I love it.
Emiliavance
2014-10-15T14:54:25Z
Originally Posted by: Freddx 

A lot of players think that Old Era haven't meta, but well the old era have meta decks too, the play style would be different than today but there were broken decks too, PLEASE people don't think that YGO in a old era were so different if don't know the meta in that time.



Agree with this. It should be the reverse (?), yes, it was different, but the existence of Meta Decks that can make today's players cringe can't be denied - Heck, it's the old days that started the banlist! XD
Link is the new Synchro, because it changes the definition of "Classic" in Yu-Gi-Oh!
Freddx
2014-10-15T15:00:20Z
Originally Posted by: Emiliavance 

Originally Posted by: Freddx 

A lot of players think that Old Era haven't meta, but well the old era have meta decks too, the play style would be different than today but there were broken decks too, PLEASE people don't think that YGO in a old era were so different if don't know the meta in that time.



Agree with this. It should be the reverse (?), yes, it was different, but the existence of Meta Decks that can make today's players cringe can't be denied - Heck, it's the old days that started the banlist! XD



lol sorry for a grammar error, my english is terrible.

But well, when the people say that there weren't broken decks and cards in the old era, make me crazy XD ,because I played a long time in that time.
Emiliavance
2014-10-15T15:44:55Z
Originally Posted by: Freddx 

Originally Posted by: Emiliavance 

Originally Posted by: Freddx 

A lot of players think that Old Era haven't meta, but well the old era have meta decks too, the play style would be different than today but there were broken decks too, PLEASE people don't think that YGO in a old era were so different if don't know the meta in that time.



Agree with this. It should be the reverse (?), yes, it was different, but the existence of Meta Decks that can make today's players cringe can't be denied - Heck, it's the old days that started the banlist! XD



lol sorry for a grammar error, my english is terrible.

But well, when the people say that there weren't broken decks and cards in the old era, make me crazy XD ,because I played a long time in that time.



Well, I've known this game since around 6, so I know your feelings.
The Old Days are, obviously, have their charms and I love them so much, but of course there are OP Decks too... XD
Link is the new Synchro, because it changes the definition of "Classic" in Yu-Gi-Oh!
SilentNinj
2014-10-15T23:57:08Z
To be honest the old days should be considered before syncro monsters came into play, bc they were a new aspect. Gx didn't add anything new really as far as cards go. You still had the Normal effect rit, and fusion monster cards. Gx only added lots of more fusion cards.

I will have to disagree with Emiliavance, There were many variations of decks in thoughs days. Which is what I loved. Now days there is really very few deck types. Hell you can litterly count them on 1 hand, decks used for tournys that is. In the old days you would see people come in with "fun" decks as we call them now and do really well in tournys. Now they still come in, then 1 round later they walk right back out.
Freddx
2014-10-16T04:42:34Z
Originally Posted by: SilentNinj 



I will have to disagree with Emiliavance, There were many variations of decks in thoughs days. Which is what I loved. Now days there is really very few deck types. Hell you can litterly count them on 1 hand, decks used for tournys that is. In the old days you would see people come in with "fun" decks as we call them now and do really well in tournys. Now they still come in, then 1 round later they walk right back out.



Uhmmm what kind of fun decks? fun decks of today isn't the same than fun decks of the old school, Blue-Eyes? Dark Magician?

Each format have meta decks, look that 2007 tourney:
http://kperovic.com/meta...id=33&ArticleId=8745 

A lot of Trooper Monarch and Trooper Cyber Dragon, no?

In the competitive game people use the best card for win or the best decks, is the normal I don't undestand why the people forget that, I read people that think that Blue-Eyes decks was one of the best deck of the game or the best card because have 3000 ATK points, a lot of people don't know the old school, there were format where 3 or 2 decks top and others where 5, 6 or 7 decks tops is normal in the game
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2014-10-16T08:18:10Z
If you ask people who have experience in competitive YuGiOh from the very early days, they will tell you things like Goat Control, the Yata Garasu/CED lock and the Primal Seed and Makyura loops. They will not tell you BEWD, Dark Magician, Fusion, or any of the other "fun" themes.
aethe
2014-10-16T12:58:20Z
Old days (Original + GX)
+ There was more interaction between players (if play non competitively)
+ Game was easy for beginners to play.
+ Nostalgic
- Very boring, not much game mechanic
- Archetypes are weak (except for HERO)
- If it's not one of those annoying OTK or lockdown (e.g. goat control, etc), then most deck are just boring beat stick deck on who gets the strongest monster out.

Synchro Era
+ Game gotten faster
+ Strategy is actually needed now
+ Game mechanic and Archetypes got interesting (e.g. Infernity o's hand gameplay or Fortune Lady, etc)
+ It's not about who have the strongest atk card anymore.
- Abandoned Ritual and Fusion
- Field Control in this era is... Wow...
- Less interaction between players now.

Zexal (Worst Era)
+ Xyz gave old decks a chance to compete again.
- Archetype was bland and boring (e.g. All them focus on jsut swarming the field and then xyz).
- This was the age where they released a lot of stupid loops and bs effec (e.g. Inzektor loop, Windup Loop, etc).
- Abandoned Ritual, Fusion and Synchro (synchro was revived near the end but...)
- Banned a lot of tuners just to promote xyz cards.
- Less interaction between players now.
Timeline15
2014-10-23T20:52:40Z
My love of Synchro summons tends to make me favour the 5Ds era. I was pleased with how much less specific they were than fusions. barely any of them list a specific monster. Some later fusions became less specific too, but it's more common in synchros. Having never played on a meta level, I can't really comment on the speed of the game.
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