Rare Hunter 02
2015-06-17T20:43:39Z
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Doll_Part  i am finding it relatively impossible. you need like 7 cards to get the boss out and it aint even that good of a boss...you can just remove it from play SEND it to the graveyard or send it back to your hand and all your hard work was a waste (if that happens you basically lost) plus the doll parts have to be sent from your deck...any tips?
Michael Lawrence Dee
2015-06-18T13:50:08Z
World Cycle, search it. Use it on Chimera.
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Rare Hunter 02
2015-06-18T14:37:29Z
Originally Posted by: Michael Lawrence Dee 

World Cycle, search it. Use it on Chimera.



even then its not that good...i got beat mutiple times by the A.I
Michael Lawrence Dee
2015-06-19T01:08:57Z
Originally Posted by: Rare Hunter 02 

Originally Posted by: Michael Lawrence Dee 

World Cycle, search it. Use it on Chimera.



even then its not that good...i got beat mutiple times by the A.I



I know. This definitely needs more studying. But this is the best one so far, try combining it with Fire King Avatar, the first one in the list, I think.
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Michael Lawrence Dee
2015-06-25T02:27:10Z
Like I said, it's competetive. I have also beaten AI_Shaddoll once. Although it's not perfect, it can win.
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Bee Ba
2015-06-25T02:59:35Z
Use a Vanilla LV1, Piper Chaos, or Skull Servant engine (all 3 decks available from AM's deck thread). This means use Tri-Wight, Slacker Magician, Cain and Abel, Lionheart, Mystic Piper, and Kinka-Byo. All the Doll parts are level 1 normal, so this works just fine. Tri-Wight is used to summon 3 level 1 monsters from grave for xyz which if you normal summon, you will have 4 level 1 monsters for Cain and Abel. All Doll parts are also Spellcasters, so you can use Wonder Wand to help you draw if Kinka-Byo and Mystic Piper isn't enough. You can also add the new card, Anti-Hope.

You don't need Marionette Burial, Alice, Cursed Dollhouse, Eshila, or Necro Dollmeister. Doll Chimera only requires 1 tribute which should be easy to do. Have around 8 different Doll parts in the deck, not more which will give it an atk boost of 3200. You can use safe zone to protect it from being targeted.

Depending on which engine you're using, you have access to Law of Normal or Utopic Dragon as well.
Michael Lawrence Dee
2015-06-25T03:04:14Z
Originally Posted by: Bee Ba 

Use a Vanilla LV1, Piper Chaos, or Skull Servant engine (all 3 decks available from AM's deck thread). This means use Tri-Wight, Slacker Magician, Cain and Abel, Lionheart, Mystic Piper, and Kinka-Byo. All the Doll parts are level 1 normal, so this works just fine. Tri-Wight is used to summon 3 level 1 monsters from grave for xyz which if you normal summon, you will have 4 level 1 monsters for Cain and Abel. All Doll parts are also Spellcasters, so you can use Wonder Wand to help you draw if Kinka-Byo and Mystic Piper isn't enough. You can also add the new card, Anti-Hope.

You don't need Marionette Burial, Alice, Cursed Dollhouse, Eshila, or Necro Dollmeister. Doll Chimera only requires 1 tribute which should be easy to do. Have around 8 different Doll parts in the deck, not more which will give it an atk boost of 3200. You can use safe zone to protect it from being targeted.

Depending on which engine you're using, you have access to Law of Normal or Utopic Dragon as well.



Not bad. Well I only used Eshila and Doll Chimera as well as the Doll Parts. I have won against Shadolls specifically using Eshila. Doll Chimera is also a Nomi monster so it's not that easy without World Cycle. And you're right, most of the "support" cards won't work competitively.
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Bee Ba
2015-06-25T03:17:29Z
Using World Cycle seems unnecessary. Half your LP to add any card in your deck to just send it to the graveyard? Why not simply use Foolish Burial? Piper Chaos already runs Foolish Burial and contains ghostrick lantern and ghostrick specter (monsters that are dark with 0 def just like Doll Chimera). Use Recurrent Nightmare to add Doll Chimera back to hand.

Just take AM's Piper Chaos deck, replace 4-8 cards with Doll Parts, add Tri-Wight, replace Anti-Hope or Wisel with Doll Chimera and you're done. It should be competitive. Which cards to take out is the hard part.

Note: If you're using World Cycle to trigger Chimera's effect like Yubel, then it's better to just use Fire King Island which can destroy any monster in your hand.
Michael Lawrence Dee
2015-06-25T03:22:45Z
Originally Posted by: Bee Ba 

Using World Cycle seems unnecessary. Half your LP to add any card in your deck to just send it to the graveyard? Why not simply use Foolish Burial? Piper Chaos already runs Foolish Burial and contains ghostrick lantern and ghostrick specter (monsters that are dark with 0 def just like Doll Chimera). Use Recurrent Nightmare to add Doll Chimera back to hand.

Just take AM's Piper Chaos deck, replace 4-8 cards with Doll Parts, add Tri-Wight, replace Anti-Hope or Wisel with Doll Chimera and you're done. It should be competitive. Which cards to take out is the hard part.



I'm good friends with AM but I have my own play style.
Foolish Burial doesn't trigger Fire King High Avatar nor Doll Chimera. This makes World Cycle necessary. I'm not going to add it to my hand nor send it to the graveyard for no reason. I'm aiming to destroy it.

Read the card text again. Destroy is different from send it to the Graveyard.
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Bee Ba
2015-06-25T03:28:56Z
Yea I understand what you're trying to do, but read my note above. Fire King Island does it for free without cost. Half your LP is not worth it. Plus if you can do it without using anime cards, it's better.
Michael Lawrence Dee
2015-06-25T03:35:07Z
Originally Posted by: Bee Ba 

Yea I understand what you're trying to do, but read my note above. Fire King Island does it for free without cost. Half your LP is not worth it. Plus if you can do it without using anime cards, it's better.



Based on what I understood with Fire King Island, you need to add a "Fire King" monster which I don't aim to do. Can I use it without adding a "Fire King" monster?
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Bee Ba
2015-06-25T03:37:07Z
Destroying a monster in your hand is not a cost to add a "fireking" monster from your deck to your hand. Hence, even if you don't have ANY fireking monsters in your deck, you can use Fire King Island's effect to destroy any monster in your hand even if you don't search afterwards.
Michael Lawrence Dee
2015-06-25T03:43:41Z
Originally Posted by: Bee Ba 

Destroying a monster in your hand is not a cost to add a "fireking" monster from your deck to your hand. Hence, even if you don't have ANY fireking monsters in your deck, you can use Fire King Island's effect to destroy any monster in your hand even if you don't search afterwards.



I know it's not a cost. My point is it said this:

...in your hand or that you control. If you do, add 1 "Fire King" monster....

There is no you can . It's required so you can't activate it if you have no "Fire King" monsters in your Deck.
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Bee Ba
2015-06-25T03:47:25Z
It's "if you do", which means you can still do it without the second part i.e. even if there is no target to search for, mandatory or not. Have you tried it in ygopro?
Michael Lawrence Dee
2015-06-25T03:56:26Z
Originally Posted by: Bee Ba 

It's "if you do", which means you can still do it without the second part i.e. even if there is no target to search for, mandatory or not. Have you tried it in ygopro?



Yeah, close enough.

if chk==0 then return Duel.IsExistingMatchingCard(c57554544.filter1,tp,LOCATION_HAND+LOCATION_MZONE,0,1,nil)
and Duel.IsExistingMatchingCard(c57554544.filter2,tp,LOCATION_DECK,0,1,nil) end

In Green checks monster to destroy.
In Red checks monster to add to hand.

It will not work.
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Bee Ba
2015-06-25T04:02:17Z
I see, you're right, but I wonder if the ruling for this is correct. In any case, I think paying half your LP for World Cycle is too much.
Michael Lawrence Dee
2015-06-25T04:14:22Z
Originally Posted by: Bee Ba 

I see, you're right, but I wonder if the ruling for this is correct. In any case, I think paying half your LP for World Cycle is too much.



Well it's actually worse since I can't gain the LP back with Life Absorbing Machine. It doesn't pay LP. But it's kind of the only available option.
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