haurom15
2014-03-26T14:40:29Z
Snarky, thank you very much, I will try to learn a lot. Hope can be a little writing for AI like you. 🙂
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2014-03-26T15:28:01Z
Originally Posted by: Order-Sol 

Snarky, I have here a script from former Six Samurai. That at the time of Gateway, then you can make some changes to fix some errors. On the causes of the new updates AI_.[:thumbu:]



Actually, I did see that script on this forums, and I was impressed, how it handled cards like Forbidden Lance and the like. I didn't think, this was possible at the time, I learned a lot from that AI script. In fact, if you look at my scripts for chaining cards like Forbidden Lance, Breakthrough Skill, Stardust Spark etc, it looks very similar to the script of similar cards in this AI, because I copied it almost 100% in the beginning.

Unfortunately, as you experienced, the script doesn't work all that great with the current version of YGOPro, and I am not sure, if I can just integrate the script into ours, as the author used an entirely different approach. I use mainly AI script and only use card script, if the desired functionality is not available otherwise, while he seems to use card script for just about everything and AI script only, if he must. I can try at some point, but it will probably be easier to just add my own version of a Six Sams script.

Also the author did never answer me, when I asked him about the script and doesn't seem to be around anymore.
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2014-03-26T15:37:33Z
Well, many end up fading into the forum here and sometimes people are quite knowledge.[:sad:]
2014-03-26T20:10:42Z
I've noticed a misplay involving wolfbark. With Tensu on the field ther ai would normal summon aany fire fist and then wolfbark. Used it's effect to ss. The AI would then use the wolfbark and the first normal summoned Fire Fist instead of the specisl summoned one. It would be awesome if you could fix it. Thanks for your hard hard work with the AI btw ^^
ebert
2014-03-27T10:25:28Z
Hello snarky
Kindly, you can do something to prevent infinite loops with Galaxy-eyes Photon Dragon? Are generated, especially when the effects of galaxy-eyes are negated. I'm sick of this! 🙂
"A card! A card! My kingdom for a card!" - cit. from Yu-Gi-Oh! The Duelist of the Roses
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2014-03-27T10:50:16Z
Originally Posted by: free zenmaity! 

I've noticed a misplay involving wolfbark. With Tensu on the field ther ai would normal summon aany fire fist and then wolfbark. Used it's effect to ss. The AI would then use the wolfbark and the first normal summoned Fire Fist instead of the specisl summoned one. It would be awesome if you could fix it. Thanks for your hard hard work with the AI btw ^^



Yes, I noticed that. I will fix it at some point, but kind of low priority for now, since it is a minor misplay imo, and it might get a little more complicated to fix, since I will have to mess with the general logic of selecting XYZ materials. Granted, I will need to do that soon anyways for the Bujin deck, to ensure it doesn't use Yamato when it doesn't need to.

Originally Posted by: ebert 

Hello snarky
Kindly, you can do something to prevent infinite loops with Galaxy-eyes Photon Dragon? Are generated, especially when the effects of galaxy-eyes are negated. I'm sick of this! :)



I tried to fix this before with a generic fix, but that doesn't seem to be working. I will look into it.
flowoftime
2014-03-28T15:19:17Z
AI_Bujin:
1. I don't see the popular 3 cards for Bujin deck: Kaiser Colosseum, Vanity's Emptiness and Black Garden.
2. Foolish Burial is a waste in a card slot. At least that was what those Pojo guys were talking about.
3. They(people) say Safe Zone is good in Bujin deck.
4. Pendulum Summon, no?

I wish you could add at least 1 AI deck(AI Code) for Pendulum Summon. It will definitely help people to learn about the new Pendulum Summon mechanic. Too bad Pendulum cards are almost unsearchable, at least with the current released.

Thanks.
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2014-03-29T12:23:03Z
Originally Posted by: flowoftime 

AI_Bujin:
1. I don't see the popular 3 cards for Bujin deck: Kaiser Colosseum, Vanity's Emptiness and Black Garden.


Black Garden has dropped in popularity recently, and I didn't add Kaiser or Vanity's yet, because they are not that easy to handle for the AI. It has to consider, when to not use a card that would selfdestruct Vanity, or when not to summon additional monsters for Kaiser. I will play around with them to see, if I get satisfying results, but it might require major changes to a lot of other stuff, not sure
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2. Foolish Burial is a waste in a card slot. At least that was what those Pojo guys were talking about.


Maybe, but that is a matter of opinion. Yamato can fill the grave in the end phase. Foolish puts the relic you want in grave right now. Need troublesome card gone now? Dump Quilin. Need protection from Bottomless? Dump Hare before you summon your Yamato.

Feel free to make slight adjustments to the deck, though. As long as you use cards the AI can handle, it should work just fine.
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3. They(people) say Safe Zone is good in Bujin deck.


I disagree. But then, Safe Zone is coded into the AI, so feel free to use it.
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4. Pendulum Summon, no?

I wish you could add at least 1 AI deck(AI Code) for Pendulum Summon. It will definitely help people to learn about the new Pendulum Summon mechanic. Too bad Pendulum cards are almost unsearchable, at least with the current released.

Thanks.



We don't even have functions available to make the AI use Pendulum Summons yet, I believe. And if we do, I will need some time to familiarize myself with how they work. Once I do, I can attempt to code in a Pendulum deck.

All Pendulum monsters can be searched by Odd-Eyes Pendulum Dragon, which can be searched himself by other cards as well, like Tempest, Atum, Eclipse...
flowoftime
2014-03-29T13:27:28Z
Originally Posted by: Snarky 

I disagree. But then, Safe Zone is coded into the AI, so feel free to use it.



I would like to hear/read your reasoning regarding Safe Zone. Is Bujingi Hare better than Safe Zone?

Originally Posted by: Snarky 

We don't even have functions available to make the AI use Pendulum Summons yet, I believe. And if we do, I will need some time to familiarize myself with how they work. Once I do, I can attempt to code in a Pendulum deck.

All Pendulum monsters can be searched by Odd-Eyes Pendulum Dragon, which can be searched himself by other cards as well, like Tempest, Atum, Eclipse...



I'll be waiting for the New AI with Pendulum Summon then.

It's not easy to search Odd-Eyes Pendulum Dragon or any kind of Pendulum monster with the current released. It may suit in some Archtype decks, but most Archtype aren't.


Is it possible for you to change/replace Sebrian's AI decks with more competitive AI decks with the same Archtype?

I think Sebrian's AI decks aren't that competitive. His AI decks are good, but there's always be a better one, especially with the change in Banlist. A change in Banlist should change the AI decks as well. You can't use the same deck everytime new Banlist is up. It will make your deck less competitive. Well, it's just my opinion...

Anyway, thanks for your concern.
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2014-03-29T15:19:14Z
Originally Posted by: flowoftime 


I would like to hear/read your reasoning regarding Safe Zone. Is Bujingi Hare better than Safe Zone?


I think, Bujingi Hare is better than Safe Zone within the archetype, yes. It is easily searchable/dumpable, reusable via Regalia, Bujincarnation or Amaterasu... Also Bujins can offer some major protection to Yamato already, and while Safe Zone technically provides additional protection, it also gives Yamato an additional weakness to MST, which would require a Hare in the grave to circumvent.

It is certainly possible to run Safe Zone in Bujins, and I am sure, many players disagree with me on not running it. But ultimatively, these are my personal deck choices. As mentioned, feel free to modify the decks on your end to your liking, as long as the end result still works, great :)

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I think Sebrian's AI decks aren't that competitive. His AI decks are good, but there's always be a better one, especially with the change in Banlist. A change in Banlist should change the AI decks as well. You can't use the same deck everytime new Banlist is up. It will make your deck less competitive. Well, it's just my opinion...



Sebrian doesn't aim purely for competitiveness, he goes for decks or archetypes he likes, or for decks with nostalgia factor, like the character decks he implemented. You could ask him, if he would like to add changes to his decks, he seems to be around from time to time. However, since his decks do work decently, they are not very high on my priority list curently, I would much rather add other archetypes not yet represented, unless its about fixing major bugs with some cards.

You could also consider his decks, especially the character decks, a "lower difficulty" AI, and some of my decks the "higher difficulty".
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2014-04-03T22:38:14Z
New Experimental Update 

Improved Bujins, they use other extra deck monsters now. Yamato is preferably not selected as an XYZ material. Switched around some priorities.

Other small fixes to Number 8, Swift Scarecrow/Battle Fader, also the AI should not be able to skip mandatory attacks anymore.
YGOFan
2014-04-04T00:38:29Z
Thank you for your work.
Hulkty
2014-04-04T05:46:51Z
I just want an AI that isn't completely retarded...
YGOFan
2014-04-04T07:18:44Z
It is still a beta, need be patient, coding a good AI for a game like yu gi oh is not so easy. [:tongue:]

Snarky, is it possible add in the list wishes a option for can read the effects to the cards the AI active before it play it ?
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2014-04-04T08:20:39Z
Originally Posted by: Hulkty 

I just want an AI that isn't completely retarded...



The AI has come a long way. I do not think, it is retarded right now, at least when using a deck designed for it. Sure, it occasionally makes stupid moves, because it cannot factor in all possible card interactions.

If you feel, it is still retarded, could you be a little more specific? Add some examples of retarded things the AI is doing at the moment? Preferably when it is using one of the pre-built AI decks, of course.

Originally Posted by: YGOFan 


Snarky, is it possible add in the list wishes a option for can read the effects to the cards the AI active before it play it ?



You can hold "A" or the left mouse button at any point to check the field. This gives you enough time to read all the cards you want (as long as you stay within the time limit for the turn, but for a game vs AI, you can set that to a billion seconds easily :D)

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2014-04-04T09:34:45Z
Small update , fixes some issues with the previous experimental update.
Bolic39
2014-04-04T17:36:53Z
Hai Snarky, i have suggestion for you

Your can make any deck with diferent dificult.

Example : Ai_Bujin lvl 1 (for easy win), Ai_Bujin lvl 2 (for medium), exct.

Thanks [:thumbu:]
bossbellbank
2014-04-08T06:01:05Z
thank you Snarky. your ai are really good i love heraldic bujin and firefist (but bujin auto lose to beelze lol)
i hope you make madolche ai that would be fun!
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2014-04-08T10:41:58Z
Originally Posted by: bossbellbank 

but bujin auto lose to beelze lol



Yes, I noticed. There are some logical flaws with Bujins concerning strong battle-immune monsters, need to fix those 🙂
sredoje
2014-04-08T12:07:14Z
Well Beelze is a badass monster so he deserve to be an auto win against Bujin.And i just notice his English name and i cant belive that we (finally)get to use words like Diabolic in English card names.Maybe soon we will get Demon,Death and other words also,
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