Ultimate_Nova_X
2013-06-08T22:47:21Z
We know that there exists a Rule of 3000 atk and def. It was stealthily implemented since the invention of the game. A card typically can't go over it unless you had a summoning condition or a negative effect. To date, there is one exception, Super Conductor Tyranno.

Is there a monster that can be normal set and doesn't have a negative effect with 3000 def?

As for level 4's. The Rule of atk is 2000 but afaik, there are only 2 of them. Alexandrite Dragon and Werewolf. As for def, anyone have a list of non-normal monsters that has more than 2000 def with no negative effects or summon conditions?
Steeldarkeagel
2013-06-08T23:06:45Z
Neo Aqua Madoor
Millenium Sheild
Labyrinth Wall
The Supremacy Sun
Big Whale
Anceint Gear Golem
Despari from the Dark
The Creator
Sauropod Brachion
Redox Dragon Ruler

All of them have 3000 def and can be Normal Summoned and do not have negative effects.

Gladiator Beast Hoplomus
Gear Golem the Moving Fortress
The Lad in Wight
Gogogo Gigas
Emperor Sem

All of these have above 2000 def and can be Normal Summoned and do not have negative effects and are not Normal Monsters.
Ultimate_Nova_X
2013-06-09T01:16:03Z
What about over 3000 def?

And what about over 3000 atk and 2000 atk in case I've missed some.
Smilly
2013-06-09T05:55:16Z
Obsidian Dragon is Forgotten as always ya know He is not even THAT BAD
but yeah Steeldarkeagel pretty much named them all or the useful ones that is

Obsidian Dragon,
Jenis, Lightsworn Mender,
Evilswarm O' Wisp,
Revival Golem,
Jar Turtle
Hedge Guard

are the more useless lvl 4 or lower monsters that have NEVER SEEN PLAY

Arcana Force 21 - ZA WARUDO

is questionable as he has 2 effects and it's decided by a coin flip ether he becomes broken or a giant liability for over 3000 atk and def
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Spier
2013-06-09T08:56:19Z
Originally Posted by: Ultimate_Nova_X 

We know that there exists a Rule of 3000 atk and def. It was stealthily implemented since the invention of the game. A card typically can't go over it unless you had a summoning condition or a negative effect. To date, there is one exception, Super Conductor Tyranno.

Is there a monster that can be normal set and doesn't have a negative effect with 3000 def?

As for level 4's. The Rule of atk is 2000 but afaik, there are only 2 of them. Alexandrite Dragon and Werewolf. As for def, anyone have a list of non-normal monsters that has more than 2000 def with no negative effects or summon conditions?


Type same stuff in wikia and you will be amazed that almost all aspects of game has topic there by now.
http://yugioh.wikia.com/...Rule_of_3000_ATK_and_DEF 

Well there is LVL 4 Destiny Hero Defender with 2700 DEF and doesnt have negative effect like same lvl Big Shield Gardna with 2600 DEF but has protection while face down.
http://yugioh.wikia.com/.../Destiny_HERO_-_Defender 
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Big_Shield_Gardna 

You can even search specific ATK & DEF monsters there.. just type in search box query "list of [specific stuff you need] cards" and it will give results.
http://yugioh.wikia.com/...evel_4_ATK_and_DEF_Rules 

Or you can just use YGOPRO Deck Edit search with extra parameters..
Or you can use this handy website YGOCG  for attribute searches. [:smile:]