Ahtem
2014-12-12T20:27:42Z
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Revival_Jam  oen form Manga and one form Anime, but Anime is better.
YamiJustin
2014-12-12T21:45:58Z
While I have no problem with both a manga and anime version, anyone who uses it would prefer the anime for a number of reasons.
1: It's much better
2. It's the exact version they saw on the show
3. The manga one is barely different from the legal one
4. There was no issues with the anime one
Michael Lawrence Dee
2014-12-13T01:40:46Z
Originally Posted by: Ahtem 

Obelisk are still bugged, still have ??? instead of effect names



But Obelisk has only 2 effects. And it won't be too confusing except that you can't read the text effect.
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Michael Lawrence Dee
2014-12-13T01:45:05Z
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Revival_Jam  oen form Manga and one form Anime, but Anime is better.



Checked the effect. I realized Revival Jam manga doesn't have the "Destroyed by anything". I only cared because it would go back during the Standby Phase. If it had the destroyed by any way, it could've been better and fair for everyone.
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YamiJustin
2014-12-13T02:22:38Z
Originally Posted by: Michael Lawrence Dee 

Originally Posted by: Ahtem 

Obelisk are still bugged, still have ??? instead of effect names



But Obelisk has only 2 effects. And it won't be too confusing except that you can't read the text effect.



Yeah, God Hand Crusher and Soul-Energy MAX should be displayed, but instead you get glitched text.
But its not game-breaking. Anyone using Obelisk will know which is which.

Why not just replace them with IDarkDemonI's Gods? In their raw form they have no issues at all. Ra works 100%, Obelisk's effects are legible. Can't we just remove the YGOPro ones in the next update and replace them with the IDD ones.
Since they both have the same effects...

I even provided a download link for his 3 Gods + the God Phoenix [:thumbu:]
They have the anime artwork and anime text (so no effect text, just the actual description found on the Japanese anime card), and they work!
https://mega.co.nz/# !hQo3TbyA!eKXjtQpaCbPygxbf3wwacfvEiDEludKu2p82qnyUQ1s
Michael Lawrence Dee
2014-12-13T02:36:11Z
Originally Posted by: YamiJustin 

Originally Posted by: Michael Lawrence Dee 

Originally Posted by: Ahtem 

Obelisk are still bugged, still have ??? instead of effect names



But Obelisk has only 2 effects. And it won't be too confusing except that you can't read the text effect.



Yeah, God Hand Crusher and Soul-Energy MAX should be displayed, but instead you get glitched text.
But its not game-breaking. Anyone using Obelisk will know which is which.

Why not just replace them with IDarkDemonI's Gods? In their raw form they have no issues at all. Ra works 100%, Obelisk's effects are legible. Can't we just remove the YGOPro ones in the next update and replace them with the IDD ones.
Since they both have the same effects...

I even provided a download link for his 3 Gods + the God Phoenix [:thumbu:]
They have the anime artwork and anime text (so no effect text, just the actual description found on the Japanese anime card), and they work!
https://mega.co.nz/# !hQo3TbyA!eKXjtQpaCbPygxbf3wwacfvEiDEludKu2p82qnyUQ1s



IDARKDemonI's God Cards doesn't even say the effect. Even if a lot don't read the effect but when someone decides to read it, the opponent wouldn't understand what it means. I fixed Ra and I will upload it soon along with other effects I can fix like Wicked Gods can only be affected by Spell Cards for 1 turn.
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YamiJustin
2014-12-13T02:39:12Z
You fixed Ra? If so then I wouldn't bother with replacing them.
But if there are still issues, you can always replace them with these versions:
http://www.ygopro.co/For...-Manga-Effects#post46486 

He includes two versions, one with effect text + anime artwork and one without the full text. You could use the one with the full effect text, since it also includes the nicer anime artwork.
Michael Lawrence Dee
2014-12-13T04:34:58Z
Link updated. Now Ra is fixed (untested but I copied the entire script of IDarkDemonI and what each card number in the script meant)
Wicked God, effect semi-modified so "unaffected by spell cards for 1 turn" will be possible and removed any effects in the script that shouldn't be there.
Ruklamba The Spirit King or whatever was fixed.
Nibelung's Treasure's text fixed
I didn't bother checking the Egyptian God Cards complete effect since it's WAY TOO LONG!!!
The heck, I hate when a person modifies an effect and only adds it to the script and not in the card text.
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YamiJustin
2014-12-13T05:32:43Z
Does it work on the servers or does that require an update?
I think the only issue all 3 Gods had were sometimes continuous cards (like swords) would affect them the entire time, when it should just be one turn.
I tried Ra out in Single AI duel, a few times froze when I went to use Point to Point (because of a complex AI duel??), but sometimes it worked.
Can't be sure unless I duel online where there is no buggy AI opponent
Michael Lawrence Dee
2014-12-13T08:16:43Z
Originally Posted by: YamiJustin 

Does it work on the servers or does that require an update?
I think the only issue all 3 Gods had were sometimes continuous cards (like swords) would affect them the entire time, when it should just be one turn.
I tried Ra out in Single AI duel, a few times froze when I went to use Point to Point (because of a complex AI duel??), but sometimes it worked.
Can't be sure unless I duel online where there is no buggy AI opponent



Usually, the Anime Cards aren't updated in the servers until the release of another update. Wicked Gods should work now and please read the modified effects since I can't think of any way to check if a card is affected by a spell card. Does this also apply to the Egyptian God Cards?
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YamiJustin
2014-12-13T08:32:43Z
You want me to check the Wicked Gods? I haven't used them yet.

Egyptian Gods all share this:
Requires 3 Tributes to Normal Summon (cannot be Normal Set).
This card's Normal Summon cannot be negated.
When Normal Summoned, Spells, Traps, Spell/Trap effects, and the effects of non-DIVINE monsters cannot be activated.
Your opponent cannot Tribute this card.
Control of this card cannot switch.
Cannot be targeted by, or leave the field by, the effects of Spell/Trap Cards and non-DIVINE monsters, except by its own effect.
Other card effects are only applied on this card until the End Phase. (This effect cannot be negated.)
During the End Phase, if this card was Special Summoned: Send it to the Graveyard.
If this card is Special Summoned in face-up Defense Position when an opponent's monster declares an attack, OR if exactly 1 monster you control is targeted by a card effect that could of targeted this card, that attack or card effect now targets this card, instead.

So any non-targetting Spell or Trap would only work on a God for 1 turn, assuming it doesn't remove them from the field (return to hand, Deck, destroy, remove from play) or change control. Something like Dark Hole would do nothing, but Swords of Revealing Light should work for 1 turn.

Michael Lawrence Dee
2014-12-13T09:21:38Z
Okay. Since I noticed number Ci1000 was unused and people don't seem to care about Skill Drain, I reconsidered my decision on this and bring back its instant win effect.
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YamiJustin
2014-12-13T09:32:39Z
Yeah, trust me even with op cards like that most don't use them. Plus, the more there are the less likely it will be that everyone is using the same crap. Most just use draw power that gets them nowhere.
Michael Lawrence Dee
2014-12-13T09:41:12Z
Originally Posted by: YamiJustin 

Yeah, trust me even with op cards like that most don't use them. Plus, the more there are the less likely it will be that everyone is using the same crap. Most just use draw power that gets them nowhere.



There was a time when these anime cards weren't released yet. I saw someone use a deck full of banned cards. He played Mirage of Nightmare but no Sinister Serpent, no Dark World, his ways to win, I didn't even see Empty Jar!!! It's totally random trolling. But Number C1000 was used a lot along with Sphere Field. it's not because of the effect but because it has a 10K ATK without restriction unlike Ci1000.
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Ahtem
2014-12-13T17:49:55Z
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Egyptian_God  in the Abilities section where is explained what they do in original manga because it's unclear in abilities

"the effects of most Trap card are useless against them, as their attacks do not trigger the activation conditions of a Trap Card. They are also unaffected by most effects that would remove them from the side of the field of the controller, except for the abilities of a God on the same Hierarchy Ranking. Any other abilities only affect them for a turn (this is why they return to the Graveyard after a single turn.)"

And in tv show only spells work on them for one turn, traps and effect monsters don't work only other God effects work on them. But because of hierarchy Slifer and Obelisk don't have effect on Ra, only on each other, and Ra can use his effects on Slifer and Obelisk
Michael Lawrence Dee
2014-12-13T23:25:22Z
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Egyptian_God  in the Abilities section where is explained what they do in original manga because it's unclear in abilities

"the effects of most Trap card are useless against them, as their attacks do not trigger the activation conditions of a Trap Card. They are also unaffected by most effects that would remove them from the side of the field of the controller, except for the abilities of a God on the same Hierarchy Ranking. Any other abilities only affect them for a turn (this is why they return to the Graveyard after a single turn.)"

And in tv show only spells work on them for one turn, traps and effect monsters don't work only other God effects work on them. But because of hierarchy Slifer and Obelisk don't have effect on Ra, only on each other, and Ra can use his effects on Slifer and Obelisk



Quote:

Only chosen Duelists linked to the ancient past may control a "God" card.



This is unclear. If I would based them on the same abilities, I can destroy them or banish them with other cards like Number 92 (Anime) or something else. The unaffected by other card effects seem unclear since the basic abilities didn't contain that line...
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YamiJustin
2014-12-14T01:05:41Z
I consider myself a God Card expert and I admit the God Cards abilities can be ambiguous or contradictory. But most of their effects are known from the many appearances of them in the anime and manga. The anime God Cards on YGOPro are extremely close to their anime/manga counterparts. The only differences or remaining ambiguities are:

1. Ra's 'Special Summon' abilities. During Battle City Ra only used his One Turn Kill and God Phoenix abilities when special summoned. Seto's translation of the Ra hieratic text hinted at this being a requirement. However, during the Ceremonial Duel, Marik says that if Yugi used the other effects of Ra (who was Normal Summoned), he could increase Ra's ATK to nearly 15,000. This would have been if he had tributed Slifer and Obelisk + paid all but 1 of his LP to increase Ra's ATK and DEF. In the only episode of GX where Ra appeared, Ra was Normal Summoned and still was able to use his other abilities. So its then left up to interpretation.

2. Trap Cards working on Gods. I can't remember an episode where a Trap Card worked on them, but there might be. It would have to be a non-targeting, non-removing or non-negation Trap. Again, not fully clear. I'm fine with Traps working for 1 turn assuming they don't destroy, target, or remove.

3. Having to be a chosen Duelist to use a God cannot be implemented into the cards, for obvious reasons. Just like we can't force users of Ra to recite the ancient hieratic text.

4. I'm pretty sure God Cards cannot be negated, based on what I know of them. So Skill Drain or other non-targeting negation spells shouldn't work.

5. In the manga only, there was a hierarchy of the God Cards, where Obelisk's and Slifer's abilities didn't work on Ra. This was never mentioned in the anime, but I like the idea. God is the highest of the Gods, representing heaven and earth, and I cannot imagine those underneath him working.

6. There are 3 cards that bypass the immunities of the Gods: anime-Pyramid of Light, anime The Wicked Eraser, and anime Ra's God Phoenix.
Michael Lawrence Dee
2014-12-14T01:21:45Z
We need to get Pyramid of Light (Anime), this will make people think twice before making a God Card Deck, hopefully.
Who has that working Pyramid of Light?!
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YamiJustin
2014-12-14T01:34:04Z
I might have seen one on the project page. But it was poorly made. Why not make one yourself?

All it is is a continuous trap that says "All God Cards on the field are removed from play."
I actually don't run into many God users. :P

EDIT: Oh, I almost forgot. The anime card Ragnarok worked against Ra, so its safe to assume this card also ignores the immunities, negating and destroying them. I doubt the Ragnarok already in the game is programmed to do so atm
Chronoman
2014-12-14T03:00:21Z
Is Number Frame supposed to be unable to equip to Number 39: Utopia? There might be something off between the Japanese names of Numbers 39 and 99, but I thought Number Frame could equip to any "Hope" monster, which I would think includes all of Number 39's forms, including 99 and 0. That's speaking from the wiki's anime text, anyway. Thanks for making the fixes and additions, BTW, as I've been wanting to use Astral's RUM's for a while now.
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