yutsuki_ame
2013-06-30T09:17:18Z
Here is some my thoughts about Eff Veiler.

Although Veiler is useful for stopping your opponent from playing deadly combo/moves,but many people especially veteran know how to bait out your veiler.Duel with more types opponent/deck,your shall know whats more crucial when is come to certain play.

Veiler doesn't stopping opponent from paying cost,such as Dark Grepher and Gale Dogra.And also doesn't stopng activation of monster eff.Such as Wind-Up user will activate monster effect while Factory is on,becoz factory search effect will still goes on not matter Wind-Up monster successfully used or not(Factory only care effect got activated or not,doesn't care if is a success activation).

There also some monster used by veteran as Veiler baiter/cheater,such as Assaultnity decks.So,pick a right timing when to veil your opponent's monster is very hard sometimes.Let me give u all an example based on assaultnity decks i said B4.

Although we all know Dux and Phalanx is the key in any Dragunity deck,mostly we will veil Dux when he is summoned.But,Dragunity pro/veteran will run the reversed way,thats mean rather protect him from veiler they go use him as veiler baiter instead.

Here is one the plays for summon Stardust/Assault

Phalanx in grave,summon Dux,then u veil Dux,but opponent ss Mystletainn isntead.And then Stardust still succesfully summoned right after that..But, u need tu judge it by watching opponents hand amount as well.
yutsuki_ame
2013-06-30T09:41:56Z
Originally Posted by: FLASH 


- if you Duel with Dark world deck and found that your opponent use the same deck
make sure not to use card effect's that make your opponent discard his own cards (or you will have a major problem)



This also same for Fabled vs Fabled,or Fabled vs Dark World .Who runs the discard effect spell card 1st lose 1st mostly.
Zane01
2013-06-30T10:08:13Z
if you monster reborn or take control of your opponents stardust dragon and he didnt summon it properly( using starlight road for example) it will not be special summoned at the end phase after u use its effect and if it was summoned properly(synchro summon) it will be special summoned to your opponents side of the field at the end phase... for some weird reason - so if u do see it in your opponents graveyard i wisely advise u to special summon something else, UNLESS he didnt properly summon it[:smile:]
Spier
2013-06-30T11:17:57Z
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Originally Posted by: Zane01 

{...}if it was summoned properly(synchro summon) it will be special summoned to your opponents side of the field at the end phase... for some weird reason{...}

That is not wierd reason. It is ruling that cards go back to owner side when removed from field. And when those cards ask for activation they ask to whoever controls that graveyard or removed from field zone. Here is  thread about it which explained this scenario. That was really something that looked like bug but is just ruling.
Steeldarkeagel
2013-06-30T11:30:14Z
Originally Posted by: Zane01 

if you monster reborn or take control of your opponents stardust dragon and he didnt summon it properly( using starlight road for example) it will not be special summoned at the end phase after u use its effect and if it was summoned properly(synchro summon) it will be special summoned to your opponents side of the field at the end phase... for some weird reason - so if u do see it in your opponents graveyard i wisely advise u to special summon something else, UNLESS he didnt properly summon it[:smile:]



Please note you can not use Monster Reborn on a Stardust Dragon if it was not Synchro Summoned properly in the first place.
joeyjoejoe
2013-07-05T07:43:28Z
If you summon a monster with an ignition effect (activates on summon) and they drop veiler flip torrential tribute or book of moon or compulsory evac device on your own monster veiler only works on face up monsters so its effect won't resolve and your debris dragon will summon your dandylion or your battlin boxer switchitter will revive your headguard/glassjaw.

Shockmaster is an answer for almost any deck so if you run level 4 monsters you should always have it glued to your extra deck. It's a general rule that any fast deck is only fast because they rely on one type of card effect. If they're using darkworlds, lavals or spellbooks call spells, against Battlin boxers, dragunity, karakuri or Dragon Rulers call monsters. You should however only call traps if you're going for game at 2300 shockmaster needs protection with your traps and any deck that relies on them like chain burn, chain beat or final countdown will just chain all their traps and laugh.

Light and Darkness dragon is a tough nut to crack but it is beatable if you know the weaknesses. Its first weakness is that it must negate whatever is activated and will wipe their field on destruction this means that LaDD will rarely have traps to defend it. The second weakness is that it can only be used once per chain so the simplest way to defeating it is to throw out a card you don't need right now like pot of duality and when it tries to negate it chain compulsory evac device. The dragon can only negate once per chain so it will be back in their hand and they won't get it's revival effect. If you use treeborn frog, the immortal bushi, high priestess of prophecy or or trifortressops you can activate their effects to summon them as much as you like reducing LaDD's attack to nothing since effects in the hand/grave can't be negated they will be powerless to stop you.
However most decks can't fit those cards so focus on the third weakness it loses attack on negation and can't negate summons. As long as the monster you summon has 2300 atk and an effect to activate you can take it out for example it can't stop chaos sorcerer from being summoned and when sorc tries to banish it LaDD will drop to 2300. You can then safely set traps since LaDD will stop them from playing anything without being too weak to battle sorc. If you don't run chaos monsters most tribute summoned monsters have effects that activate and average at 2400 enough to take it out with no fuss but if you don't run tribute summon monster or any big monster that can special summon itself and instead focus on the extra deck you still have Hope. Summon photon thrasher which any rank 4 toolbox deck should, then normal another level 4 and make Utopia, simply attack LaDD and negate your own attack. LaDD will negate your negation attempt dropping itself to 2300 and Utopias attack will run it over. Rank 3 decks can focus on acid golem to take it out though mind out for the drawbacks on that card. If you're running a synchro deck or anything else without natural answers you should just stick to chaining compulsory.