Bee Ba
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2015-06-24T00:10:05Z
July is almost here and I'm surprised that there is no prediction thread in this forum. Here are my guesses:

Banned

Djinn, Releaser of Rituals
Vanity’s Emptiness

Limited

Blaze Fenix, the Bombardment Bird
Dark Magician of Chaos
Instant Fusion
Mind Crush
Star Seraph Sovereignty

Semi-Limited

No changes

Unlimited

No changes

Short, simple, and sweet. Some cards I did consider for Limited include Lose 1 Turn, Stellarknight Altair, Nekroz of Trishula,, Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End. Cards to consider for OCG Limited include Performage Tricklown, Cyber Dragon Infinity, and Chicken Race, but as we all know OCG won't hit these at least until another list.
Zant27
2015-06-24T06:46:33Z
I dont think that djinn needs to be banned, limited valkyrius or unicore is enough, the card I am hating now is lose 1 turn, that one must be banned or limited at least, I would like to have Stratos back and debris dragon semilimited as well tour guide and rescue rabbit
jacollo
2015-06-24T07:04:10Z
I'm gonna laugh soooooooooooooooo hard when TCG copies OCG banlist!!!
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Emiliavance
2015-06-24T09:23:21Z
jacollo, in the OCG List Post wrote:

THE BEST LIST EVAR!!!!



^^^
Link is the new Synchro, because it changes the definition of "Classic" in Yu-Gi-Oh!
Yamixrei
2015-06-24T16:45:10Z



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Bee Ba
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2015-06-24T17:06:56Z
^Infinity is not TCG and OCG list already came out. The most that will happen next list is a limit on Infinity or a ban on Ptolemaios.
mooyan curry
2015-06-25T03:37:23Z
I'm thinking the TCG will make some changes to say that they actually moved cards around, but just enough to not change the meta at all. Enjoy your eternal DUEA format, everyone.

Maybe something like this:

Newly Forbidden:
Djinn Releaser of Rituals - There will be some form of Nekroz hit, direct or indirect. I'm thinking either this or Trishula. Djinn being an older card seems much more likely.
Raigeki - Like Snatch Steal before it, this should return to its rightful place, especially since Konami finished selling its new reprint.
Royal Magical Library - As with Jackpot 7 before it, Chicken Race.ydk will certainly attract some pre-release attention from Konami.

Newly Limited:
Denko Sekka - Purple cards are healthy for the game. Cold Wave on legs is not.
Star Seraph Sovereignty - Xyz Ptolemaeus into Pleiades and bounce while going super-plus in card advantage? OCG has the right idea here.

Newly Semi-Limited
Exchange of the Spirit - Card is a fantastically dead draw early-game, and greatly underwhelming at any other point in the game, so it will get the Tsukuyomi Magician of Faith treatment.

Newly Unlimited
Dark Hole - Replaces the newly banned Raigeki and helps reduce banlist size.
Glow-Up Bulb - A once-per-duel boost to synchro summoning? Could happen.
Legendary Six Samurai - Shi En - If Six Sams can get 3 Shi Ens on field without Gateway, they deserve to win.
Ojama Trio - Anti-Burning Abyss side card, helps out Chain Burn, gives the opponent synchro material... It can safely move up.
Sinister Serpent - Pre-errata Serpent could have been safely unlimited. This is even weaker and nearly unusable, so it goes to 3 to clean up the banlist.
FTON
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2015-06-25T05:46:45Z
Originally Posted by: Bee Ba 

July is almost here and I'm surprised that there is no prediction thread in this forum. Here are my guesses:

Banned


Djinn, Releaser of Rituals
Vanity’s Emptiness

Limited

Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End
Dark Magician of Chaos

Semi-Limited

No changes

Unlimited

Ojama Trio

Short, simple, and sweet. Some cards I did consider were Mind Crush, Lose 1 Turn, Instant Fusion, Blaze Fenix, Star Seraph Sovereign. Cards to consider for OCG includes Performage Tricklown, Cyber Dragon Infinity, and Chicken Race, but as we all know OCG won't hit these at least until another list.



Originally Posted by: mooyan curry 

I'm thinking the TCG will make some changes to say that they actually moved cards around, but just enough to not change the meta at all. Enjoy your eternal DUEA format, everyone.

Maybe something like this:

Newly Forbidden:
Djinn Releaser of Rituals - There will be some form of Nekroz hit, direct or indirect. I'm thinking either this or Trishula. Djinn being an older card seems much more likely.
Raigeki - Like Snatch Steal before it, this should return to its rightful place, especially since Konami finished selling its new reprint.
Royal Magical Library - As with Jackpot 7 before it, Chicken Race.ydk will certainly attract some pre-release attention from Konami.

Newly Limited:
Denko Sekka - Purple cards are healthy for the game. Cold Wave on legs is not.
Star Seraph Sovereignty - Xyz Ptolemaeus into Pleiades and bounce while going super-plus in card advantage? OCG has the right idea here.

Newly Semi-Limited
Exchange of the Spirit - Card is a fantastically dead draw early-game, and greatly underwhelming at any other point in the game, so it will get the Tsukuyomi Magician of Faith treatment.

Newly Unlimited
Dark Hole - Replaces the newly banned Raigeki and helps reduce banlist size.
Glow-Up Bulb - A once-per-duel boost to synchro summoning? Could happen.
Legendary Six Samurai - Shi En - If Six Sams can get 3 Shi Ens on field without Gateway, they deserve to win.
Ojama Trio - Anti-Burning Abyss side card, helps out Chain Burn, gives the opponent synchro material... It can safely move up.
Sinister Serpent - Pre-errata Serpent could have been safely unlimited. This is even weaker and nearly unusable, so it goes to 3 to clean up the banlist.



Killing the fun here, why Raigeki? Why Vanity? Why Djinn? these cards are the core fun of nowadays and you want a ban? that's stupid.
mooyan curry
2015-06-25T06:53:32Z
Originally Posted by: FTON 

Killing the fun here, why Raigeki? Why Vanity? Why Djinn? these cards are the core fun of nowadays and you want a ban? that's stupid.



Yes, because nothing says "fun" like "1-sided nuke and attack for game" or "draw a miracle out or surrender", right? [:roll:]
FTON
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2015-06-25T08:04:27Z
Originally Posted by: mooyan curry 

Originally Posted by: FTON 

Killing the fun here, why Raigeki? Why Vanity? Why Djinn? these cards are the core fun of nowadays and you want a ban? that's stupid.



Yes, because nothing says "fun" like "1-sided nuke and attack for game" or "draw a miracle out or surrender", right? [:roll:]



Sorry, no offense, but i find your reasoning to predict Raigeki to be rebanned is kinda invalid.
  • It's no longer as big staple as it used to be
  • Lot of cards nowadays punish for using raigeki on them
  • No Body is using Dark Hole, or shall i say not many people are using it




Bee Ba is certainly naut, Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End is banned because its effect is worse than raigeki or Cyber Etanin itself.
mooyan curry
2015-06-25T15:23:05Z
Originally Posted by: FTON 

Sorry, no offense, but i find your reasoning to predict Raigeki to be rebanned is kinda invalid.

  • It's no longer as big staple as it used to be
  • Lot of cards nowadays punish for using raigeki on them
  • No Body is using Dark Hole, or shall i say not many people are using it

Which is why I'm predicting Dark Hole going to 3.

Raigeki is powerful this format since the current top decks don't float. Also I've said this before: Just because a card can be countered doesn't mean it shouldn't be hit.

Quote:

Bee Ba is certainly naut, Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End is banned because its effect is worse than raigeki or Cyber Etanin itself.

I'm sure Bee Ba is referring to CED Envoy's errata'd effect, which is weaker and can't be combined with anything else in that turn. Errata CED will mainly be used as a vanilla 3000 ATK beatstick or a Gagaga Cowboy-style burn for game.
Bee Ba
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2015-06-25T15:42:49Z
Yes, I'm obviously referring to the post-errata'd effects. CED and DMOC are both limited in OCG and it's about time they come back in TCG. I don't really care if Raigeki gets re-banned, but I'm pretty sure Dark Hole will remain at 2. Denko Sekka, Royal Magical Library, and Glow-Up Bulb will remain untouched I think. Star Seraph Sovereign just entered TCG, so it will take some time before it is limited like in OCG.

There's one thing common in everyone's prediction list all over the internet - Djinn Releaser of Rituals banned.
FTON
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2015-06-25T17:09:29Z
Originally Posted by: mooyan curry 

Originally Posted by: FTON 

Sorry, no offense, but i find your reasoning to predict Raigeki to be rebanned is kinda invalid.

  • It's no longer as big staple as it used to be
  • Lot of cards nowadays punish for using raigeki on them
  • No Body is using Dark Hole, or shall i say not many people are using it

Which is why I'm predicting Dark Hole going to 3.

Raigeki is powerful this format since the current top decks don't float. Also I've said this before: Just because a card can be countered doesn't mean it shouldn't be hit.

Quote:

Bee Ba is certainly naut, Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End is banned because its effect is worse than raigeki or Cyber Etanin itself.

I'm sure Bee Ba is referring to CED Envoy's errata'd effect, which is weaker and can't be combined with anything else in that turn. Errata CED will mainly be used as a vanilla 3000 ATK beatstick or a Gagaga Cowboy-style burn for game.


Regardless of what you say, Raigeki is still needed to be another good staple, also CED is very powerful card, and it won't be unbanned anytime soon.
Originally Posted by: Bee Ba 


There's one thing common in everyone's prediction list all over the internet - Djinn Releaser of Rituals banned.


Yeah, which is:
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Bee Ba
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2015-06-25T17:15:03Z
Originally Posted by: FTON 

CED is very powerful card, and it won't be unbanned anytime soon.


I'm not sure if you were paying attention, but we said CED post-errata, which is not powerful at all. It's already unbanned in OCG.

Originally Posted by: FTON 


Yeah, which is:
UserPostedImage



The only people not wanting to ban Djinn are the ones abusing 1st Turn Djinn Lock. I'm guessing Nekroz is your best deck?

FTON
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2015-06-25T20:35:43Z
Originally Posted by: Bee Ba 

Originally Posted by: FTON 

CED is very powerful card, and it won't be unbanned anytime soon.


I'm not sure if you were paying attention, but we said CED post-errata, which is not powerful at all. It's already unbanned in OCG.



It's Still Cyber Eltannin on Steroids.
Also, i don't really play OCG.
Originally Posted by: Bee Ba 


The only people not wanting to ban Djinn are the ones abusing 1st Turn Djinn Lock. I'm guessing Nekroz is your best deck?


That's a false stereotype, i don't use 1st Turn Djinn Lock and i don't see a good reason of banning it.
it's just people complain too much.
MVPIII
2015-06-25T23:10:59Z
Forbidden
Ring of destruction- I feel like even with the erratum it's still too good, but who knows

Royal Magical Library- Chicken Race 0.0

Lavalval chain- Random, but keep in mind he can send ANY card to the graveyard and foolish burial is at 1. Granted even in a rank 4 spam deck, it takes a bit more effort than just "I play this 1 card and do this". The stacking effect is just icing. No one realistically plays more than 1 so to 1 wouldn't do anything.

El-Shaddoll Construct- Just to follow ocg and to kill off the deck; it's old and konami doesn't want people playing it anymore xD

Stellarnova Alpha- Or to 1

Heroic Challenger - Thousand Blades- Well he puts gorz to shame, which they gladly put back at 3 for us. Again, you don't really need more than 1 thousand blades unless you're using it for the heroic spam into number 86 effect.


Limited
Imperial Iron Wall- Side deck card that wins against infernoids and ritual beasts, and stops trish.

Stellarknight Triverr- Tellars won't do anything without Triverr spam and it is about that time Konami kills off this deck.

Peropero cerperus- well it might not get hit since people aren't using lightsworn a whole lot aside from infernoids. I've seen this in Shaddolls too though.

Summoner's Art- They won't hit lose a turn so Qlis gotta lose something else.

Manju- Just manju, he searches more stuff

Nekroz of Valkyrus- Either this to 1, brio to 1 and this to 2, or unicore to 1 and this to 2 but it might be overkill if they do hit manju to 1.

Dante, Cir, Graff or fire lake- Just hit 1 to 1

Tribe-infecting virus- personally I think it could be fine at 3, but to 1 just to start would be fine.

Cyber-stein- Same as tribe, nowadays there's veiler, fiendish chain, breakthrough skill, chalice, etc. How happy are you gonna be when you pay 5,000 life points for nothing?

Yata-garasu- Enough decks should have cards that let them search so they can advance their game state even if they get yata'd (nekroz, infernoids, ritual beast spamming ulti-canna). Essentially it would take player A with yata to clear the opponent's board twice before they've won.

Mind master- same as tribe

Thousand-eyes restrict- same as tribe, just keep metamorphisis banned since rank 4 decks will use that to get out norden

Heavy storm- At 1 should be perfect

Future Fusion- this could be the sacky card of the format. Or they can errata it to banish from the deck instead of sending to the graveyard.

Mask Change- This just means heroes would need to run 3 mask charge. And of course Shadow mists will be seeing the graveyard more often than the field.

Solemn Judgment- to counter heavy storm if they do unban it.


Semi-limited
Bottomless Trap Hole- Won't make too much of a difference.

Traptrix trap hole nightmare- With enough use, probably to 1, most people probably only use 2 nowadays anyways

Neo-spacian grand mole


Unlimited
Tragoedia- Gorz was

Necroface- Toons need it I guess?

Card trooper- for noids

Sacred sword of seven stars- red-eyes

Thunder King Rai-oh

Monster gate- noids
jacollo
2015-06-25T23:31:20Z
Those who dare put my beloved Imperial Iron Wall on the banlist will face my wrath!!!
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AntiMetaman
2015-06-26T00:23:52Z
Most likely there will be no changes to make the World's list easier. However, the only reasonable list in this thread is in the first post. I wouldn't add or subtract anything from that list.
FTON
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2015-06-26T16:40:09Z
Originally Posted by: MVPIII 

Forbidden
Ring of destruction- I feel like even with the erratum it's still too good, but who knows

Royal Magical Library- Chicken Race 0.0

Lavalval chain- Random, but keep in mind he can send ANY card to the graveyard and foolish burial is at 1. Granted even in a rank 4 spam deck, it takes a bit more effort than just "I play this 1 card and do this". The stacking effect is just icing. No one realistically plays more than 1 so to 1 wouldn't do anything.

El-Shaddoll Construct- Just to follow ocg and to kill off the deck; it's old and konami doesn't want people playing it anymore xD

Stellarnova Alpha- Or to 1

Heroic Challenger - Thousand Blades- Well he puts gorz to shame, which they gladly put back at 3 for us. Again, you don't really need more than 1 thousand blades unless you're using it for the heroic spam into number 86 effect.


Limited
Imperial Iron Wall- Side deck card that wins against infernoids and ritual beasts, and stops trish.

Stellarknight Triverr- Tellars won't do anything without Triverr spam and it is about that time Konami kills off this deck.

Peropero cerperus- well it might not get hit since people aren't using lightsworn a whole lot aside from infernoids. I've seen this in Shaddolls too though.

Summoner's Art- They won't hit lose a turn so Qlis gotta lose something else.

Manju- Just manju, he searches more stuff

Nekroz of Valkyrus- Either this to 1, brio to 1 and this to 2, or unicore to 1 and this to 2 but it might be overkill if they do hit manju to 1.

Dante, Cir, Graff or fire lake- Just hit 1 to 1

Tribe-infecting virus- personally I think it could be fine at 3, but to 1 just to start would be fine.

Cyber-stein- Same as tribe, nowadays there's veiler, fiendish chain, breakthrough skill, chalice, etc. How happy are you gonna be when you pay 5,000 life points for nothing?

Yata-garasu- Enough decks should have cards that let them search so they can advance their game state even if they get yata'd (nekroz, infernoids, ritual beast spamming ulti-canna). Essentially it would take player A with yata to clear the opponent's board twice before they've won.

Mind master- same as tribe

Thousand-eyes restrict- same as tribe, just keep metamorphisis banned since rank 4 decks will use that to get out norden

Heavy storm- At 1 should be perfect

Future Fusion- this could be the sacky card of the format. Or they can errata it to banish from the deck instead of sending to the graveyard.

Mask Change- This just means heroes would need to run 3 mask charge. And of course Shadow mists will be seeing the graveyard more often than the field.

Solemn Judgment- to counter heavy storm if they do unban it.


Semi-limited
Bottomless Trap Hole- Won't make too much of a difference.

Traptrix trap hole nightmare- With enough use, probably to 1, most people probably only use 2 nowadays anyways

Neo-spacian grand mole


Unlimited
Tragoedia- Gorz was

Necroface- Toons need it I guess?

Card trooper- for noids

Sacred sword of seven stars- red-eyes

Thunder King Rai-oh

Monster gate- noids


Banning the balanced, and unbaning the Broken huh?
WHY LAVALAL CHAIN?
WHY UNLIMIT NECROFACE?
NECRO FACE IS A BANISH MILL DECK, iT SHOULD BE BANNED INSTEAD.

KissOfAries
2015-06-27T14:35:41Z
inferno tempest + necroface = rekt
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