Poll Question : Pendulums broken?

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chowclee
2015-08-17T08:10:52Z
Just watch this replay
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chowclee
2015-08-17T08:12:59Z
FYI this was game 2 of a match, where I sided in 3 Fairy Wind, 2 MST, and 3 Galaxy Cyclones.
lj_20102012
2015-08-18T10:23:08Z
Maybe you should change your STRATEGY against those kinds of decks. don't be stuck in 1 deck build.
touya01
2015-08-18T10:32:14Z
Originally Posted by: lj_20102012 

Maybe you should change your STRATEGY against those kinds of decks. don't be stuck in 1 deck build.




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FTON
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2015-08-18T10:48:08Z
It happens only when your opponent's Deck sucks, if they make their decks better, it wouldn't be this way.
also, the replay is broken.
mooyan curry
2015-08-19T04:24:27Z
Voted yes, because Pendulum a horribly designed game mechanic that encourages OTKs and lucksack-fests.

Dueling vs Pendulum.ydk results in either them activating their scales and gaining absurd advantage, or they get Fairy Winded or Anti-Spell Fragrance'd and are unable to play. Not fun in either situation.

Juan05
2015-08-27T15:23:49Z
The Pendulum mechanic is unfair but that's how the game works, that way you're forced to improve.

I have been playing Raidraptor (with RUM, which isn´t the most broken thing) and the duels against Pendulum decks are my favorites. Also depends of the player, I have played against some Qliphorts and the duelist is bad or he had bad hand.

I would rather play against a Pendulum deck instead of Cyber Galaxy (and the annoying CyDra Infinity) or Number S0: Hope ZEXAL.
Silver_Claw
2015-08-27T15:36:36Z
Pendulums break the normal gameplay expected of the game. If your pendulums are within the right criteria, you're almost always allowed to special summon every single card in your hand and Pendulums in your extra deck, not to mention tribute summons that follow. (Apoqliphort Towers.)

However, as broken as they are Pendulums can be severely punished if you use anything that removes them, from Fairy Wind to a lucky Solemn Warning. Any Pendulum player that's hit by those pretty much just sits back and loses when that happens.
FTON
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2015-08-27T17:38:54Z
Originally Posted by: mooyan curry 

Voted yes, because Pendulum a horribly designed game mechanic that encourages OTKs and lucksack-fests.

Dueling vs Pendulum.ydk results in either them activating their scales and gaining absurd advantage, or they get Fairy Winded or Anti-Spell Fragrance'd and are unable to play. Not fun in either situation.



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"Absurd Advantages"? Not all pendulum Monsters have that, except "Ignknights" which should be the one to blame, not asking to remove the method from the game.


Originally Posted by: Juan05 

The Pendulum mechanic is unfair but that's how the game works, that way you're forced to improve.

I have been playing Raidraptor (with RUM, which isn´t the most broken thing) and the duels against Pendulum decks are my favorites. Also depends of the player, I have played against some Qliphorts and the duelist is bad or he had bad hand.

I would rather play against a Pendulum deck instead of Cyber Galaxy (and the annoying CyDra Infinity) or Number S0: Hope ZEXAL.


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"Unfair"? in what terms? many decks are fast without even maining pendulum monsters, how's that unfair?

Originally Posted by: Silver_Claw 

Pendulums break the normal gameplay expected of the game. If your pendulums are within the right criteria, you're almost always allowed to special summon every single card in your hand and Pendulums in your extra deck, not to mention tribute summons that follow. (Apoqliphort Towers.)


However, as broken as they are Pendulums can be severely punished if you use anything that removes them, from Fairy Wind to a lucky Solemn Warning. Any Pendulum player that's hit by those pretty much just sits back and loses when that happens.



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Apoqliphort Towers can be only Tribute Summoned by tributing 3 "Qil"s, unless you have Saqlifice, also Qliphort pendulums cannot let you Special Summon anything else beyond "Qli".
May I ask, how the Pendulum "break the Normal gameplay"?


ironic fact; you hate pendulum and you have performapal Silver claw in yer avi :V
Juan05
2015-08-28T02:07:42Z
Originally Posted by: FTON 


Originally Posted by: Juan05 

The Pendulum mechanic is unfair but that's how the game works, that way you're forced to improve.

I have been playing Raidraptor (with RUM, which isn´t the most broken thing) and the duels against Pendulum decks are my favorites. Also depends of the player, I have played against some Qliphorts and the duelist is bad or he had bad hand.

I would rather play against a Pendulum deck instead of Cyber Galaxy (and the annoying CyDra Infinity) or Number S0: Hope ZEXAL.



"Unfair"? in what terms? many decks are fast without even maining pendulum monsters, how's that unfair?


Fast isn't the word.
A Pendulum deck doesn't loses advantage. That's what I mean by unfair.

You need to tribute 3 Qli or Saqlifice to summon Apoqliphort Towers and later you Pendulum Summon the monsters tributed.
You tribute Majespecters to activate their Spells/Traps and you can Pendulum Summon they again and search.
Destroy the Igknights to search another until you have the correct Scales to make a Pendulum Summon of 5.

They can be destroyed by battle/effect or tributed and they can be Pendulum Summoned again, unless something happens.
Padraigo
2015-08-28T06:56:24Z
Rank 4 spam complaining about Pendulums.. hmmm


TBH, I think D/D/D does it right. They don't rely on it, it is just an option, and it isn't completely OP.


In your case though, it was mostly because your deck just wasn't designed well enough to beat it.
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FTON
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2015-08-28T11:26:38Z
Originally Posted by: Juan05 

Originally Posted by: FTON 


Originally Posted by: Juan05 

The Pendulum mechanic is unfair but that's how the game works, that way you're forced to improve.

I have been playing Raidraptor (with RUM, which isn´t the most broken thing) and the duels against Pendulum decks are my favorites. Also depends of the player, I have played against some Qliphorts and the duelist is bad or he had bad hand.

I would rather play against a Pendulum deck instead of Cyber Galaxy (and the annoying CyDra Infinity) or Number S0: Hope ZEXAL.



"Unfair"? in what terms? many decks are fast without even maining pendulum monsters, how's that unfair?


Fast isn't the word.
A Pendulum deck doesn't loses advantage. That's what I mean by unfair.

You need to tribute 3 Qli or Saqlifice to summon Apoqliphort Towers and later you Pendulum Summon the monsters tributed.
You tribute Majespecters to activate their Spells/Traps and you can Pendulum Summon they again and search.
Destroy the Igknights to search another until you have the correct Scales to make a Pendulum Summon of 5.

They can be destroyed by battle/effect or tributed and they can be Pendulum Summoned again, unless something happens.


Pendulums aren't randomly performed, and i think they lose advantages, if you do it right to kill that advantage.
It's never been easier to shut down a Pendulum Deck!!!!
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Snarky
2015-08-28T12:47:44Z
Pendulums are only as broken as Konami makes them. The mechanic by itself is not broken at all, it is quite fragile and needs quite some setup before it can generate any advantage on its own. Not more than other decks that have existed before them at least. And I personally like the flexibility Pendulum cards offer, by having the choice of playing them as monsters or spell cards, based on the situation.

But if you start releasing cards, that all generate advantage when used as monsters and/or as spells, float, or have protection on top of also having the benefit of being pendulums, and then you follow it up with releasing very powerful pendulum-exclusive support, of course the result will be a broken deck. Especially floating or generating advantage on pendulum summoning is kind of stupid, as the summon itself is already enough advantage, and every Pendulum monster kind of floats by definition. Yes, Majispecters and friends are problem decks and you could call them broken. But calling Pendulums broken in general doesn't really fit, there are a couple of balanced or even underpowered Pendulum cards/decks. It all depends on how the mechanic is (ab)used. Is Chaos Summoning broken because CED and BLS dominated the meta and are still very powerful cards to date? Is Synchro Summoning broken, because there were a couple of broken Synchro decks during that era? Are Ritual Summons broken because Nekroz exist?
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