FlunkyDave
2015-09-08T14:54:29Z
Hi.


There are some people who just got into Yu-Gi-Oh, or returned to it, and will most likely use this program. However, the one thing I noticed is that new players won't stand a single chance against an AI, most likely being squished in less than 5 turns. I know, I know, it's called YGO-"PRO". But perhaps an Easy AI would be a good thing for some people..?



I'm already waiting for the negative comments now... [:wall:]
AntiMetaman
2015-09-08T15:03:39Z
It's tough getting back into the game, but the best way to learn is via AI as you are doing. You can control the difficulty of the AI by controlling which deck it uses. Hence, you can give it a weaker deck. I suggest trying to find pre-built decks first to learn the combos and use them against the AI. That helps tremendously for new players who cannot build decks themselves.
Padraigo
2015-09-08T17:28:08Z
The AI is pretty experimental still. It only works with certain decks, and those decks are predominantly current META decks for people to practice against.

You aren't going to get varying levels of difficulty from the AI in terms of how it lays, it is purely based on the cards you have given it to use.

I think the puzzles are a better way to teach someone the new stuff in Yugioh.
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Snarky
2015-09-08T22:25:50Z
As Antimetaman already mentioned, the strength of the AI is highly dependant on the deck it plays. Some of the decks included are very weak, the character decks for Yugi, Kaiba and Pegasus for example. You shouldn't have any problems beating those (and if you do, you should really try playing a better deck xD).
Other decks are a little more challenging, but still considered weak for the current metagame. They might have a great starting hand from time to time, or a good matchup against your own deck, and they might be able to hold their own against non-meta decks, but usually those are very beatable as well. These include stuff like Fire Fists, Heraldic Beasts, Harpies, Bujins, Gadgets... most of the AI decks are probably in this category.
And then there is the "meta". I am using the term very loosely here, since not all of those decks are currently top tier decks, but all of those are capable of completely demolishing weaker decks and/or players, just because the respective decks are much more powerful on average, compared to "older" decks. For the AI, this probably includes Nekroz, Pendulum Magicians, Seraph Tellarknights, Burning Abyss.

If you cannot beat the AI, try playing against decks of the first category, or against custom decks you create for them. Although that might not exactly turn out well. You might win, but winning because the AI uses its cards to kill its own stuff doesn't seem very fun or satisfying.

Originally Posted by: Padraigo 


I think the puzzles are a better way to teach someone the new stuff in Yugioh.



I disagree. While the AI might not be a great way, I do think, it does teach you more than a puzzle. A puzzle teaches you, how to solve one exact situation, an AI duel at least involves some dynamic decisionmaking, even if you will learn to read the AI's behavior at some point.

The best way to learn is obviously to play against other players, possibly even under the supervision of a better player, who can tell you what options you have and what you could have done differently. Dueling the AI only gets you so far, its great to learn your own deck, card interactions etc etc, but it is a very predictable opponent, and at some point, you will know exactly, how it reacts to your plays and play around it accordingly. At that point, there is no point in playing vs AI for training anymore.
touya01
2015-09-09T11:05:12Z
Originally Posted by: Snarky 

As Antimetaman already mentioned, the strength of the AI is highly dependant on the deck it plays. Some of the decks included are very weak, the character decks for Yugi, Kaiba and Pegasus for example. You shouldn't have any problems beating those (and if you do, you should really try playing a better deck xD).
Other decks are a little more challenging, but still considered weak for the current metagame. They might have a great starting hand from time to time, or a good matchup against your own deck, and they might be able to hold their own against non-meta decks, but usually those are very beatable as well. These include stuff like Fire Fists, Heraldic Beasts, Harpies, Bujins, Gadgets... most of the AI decks are probably in this category.
And then there is the "meta". I am using the term very loosely here, since not all of those decks are currently top tier decks, but all of those are capable of completely demolishing weaker decks and/or players, just because the respective decks are much more powerful on average, compared to "older" decks. For the AI, this probably includes Nekroz, Pendulum Magicians, Seraph Tellarknights, Burning Abyss.

If you cannot beat the AI, try playing against decks of the first category, or against custom decks you create for them. Although that might not exactly turn out well. You might win, but winning because the AI uses its cards to kill its own stuff doesn't seem very fun or satisfying.

Originally Posted by: Padraigo 


I think the puzzles are a better way to teach someone the new stuff in Yugioh.



I disagree. While the AI might not be a great way, I do think, it does teach you more than a puzzle. A puzzle teaches you, how to solve one exact situation, an AI duel at least involves some dynamic decisionmaking, even if you will learn to read the AI's behavior at some point.

The best way to learn is obviously to play against other players, possibly even under the supervision of a better player, who can tell you what options you have and what you could have done differently. Dueling the AI only gets you so far, its great to learn your own deck, card interactions etc etc, but it is a very predictable opponent, and at some point, you will know exactly, how it reacts to your plays and play around it accordingly. At that point, there is no point in playing vs AI for training anymore.



I agree. I always make bad tech choice. ):
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