ryu2002
2016-11-20T01:36:36Z
As you know, Assault Blackwing monsters have the eff to treat themselves as Tuner if you summon them using blackwing monsters and this is Unclassified eff. My question is that if an Assault Blackwing with Tuner status on the field is hit with cards like Effect Veiler, Breakthrough Skill, etc, Will they lose their Tuner status? I think that they will not be treated as Tuner anymore if their eff negated but in YGOPRO I can still use them as Tuner even while negated. Can someone help me?
ryu2002
2016-11-23T01:31:47Z
Why am I not getting reply? Looking for some help with my question...
Much appreciated.
Steeldarkeagel
2016-11-23T08:11:05Z
Question
「A BF-霧雨のクナイ」が『①:このカードは自分フィールドの「BF」モンスター1体をリリースして手札から特殊召喚できる。この方法で特殊召喚したこのカードはチューナーとして扱う』効果によって特殊召喚された後、「エフェクト・ヴェーラー」の効果が発動し、「A BF-霧雨のクナイ」の効果が無効になった場合、「A BF-霧雨のクナイ」はチューナーとして扱われなくなりますか?
Answer
「A BF-霧雨のクナイ」が自身の効果によって特殊召喚された後に、「エフェクト・ヴェーラー」の効果によって効果が無効になったとしても、「A BF-霧雨のクナイ」の効果は既に適用されていますので、「A BF-霧雨のクナイ」はチューナーとして扱われたままとなります。


Question
" A BF- Kunai of drizzle " is "①: This card can Special Summon from your hand to release the" BF "monster of your field. After being Special Summoned by this this card Special Summoned in a way is treated as a tuner "effect," Effect Wöhler effect is activation of "," A BF- Kunai of drizzle If you have disabled the effect of, "" a BF- kunai of drizzle "Do you no longer treated as a tuner?
Answer
" A BF- Kunai of drizzle after" is Special Summoned by its own effect, " Effect Wöhler also as an effect due to the effect of" was disabled, " A BF- Kunai of drizzle effect of" is already applied since it has, " kunai of a BF- drizzle " will still be treated as a tuner.


TLDR:
It will still be a tuner.
ryu2002
2016-11-23T12:22:57Z
Thank you so much Steeldarkeagel, I am not familiar with these kinds of eff. I just get the general idea that they are different from continuous eff but not a condition either. Btw, Is there a way to make it so that the eff no longer apply? For example: Have Skill Drain already face-up when Kunai is special or use Book of moon on Kunai and then flip it again?