MulattoRedd
2013-01-16T23:59:43Z
I built a deck that had a 90% + W/L ratio! Then, in the last month, multiple changes have been made, changing the effects of several cards in the deck, even though no ruling changes have been made.... why? It had to be intentional, because the cards were working right less than a month ago!

Tethys Goddess of Light: The ruling is that as long as you draw a fairy you can draw another card, so if the next card I draw is a fairy, then I draw again, until I draw a card that is not a fairy! (Just like "Heart of the Underdog")

Herald of Perfection: "Some monster and graveyard effects" are activating with out allowing Herald to respond! Graveyard and monster effects are all "spell speed two" unless specified by the card! (like "super polymerization")

I would really like to know why, the programmer of this sight, changed the effects of these cards! The answer has to be to cripple the deck, but that is cheating, because the there have been no rulings made to change the effect of these cards! If it was a mistake, please change it back, and if you don't play by official rulings, please just say so! I like to play on sites where "all" the rules and rulings are followed!

Thank You!!
Chaos Pancake
2013-01-17T00:47:54Z
I have noticed the Tehtys one. My fairy burn FTK used to work but alas no longer. As long as the draw happened last you should get to draw again (Some rare times tethys > tethys can miss its timing but this is not common). Herald changing seems odd.

My guess would be they did not change the script of the cards (why would they?) but they changed something in the game to make it run smoother or whatever and it had unintended consequences. Either that or the cards were doing something illegal and they got changed to fix that but it also broke there legal effects.
MulattoRedd
2013-01-17T06:17:36Z
Originally Posted by: Chaos Pancake 

I have noticed the Tehtys one. My fairy burn FTK used to work but alas no longer. As long as the draw happened last you should get to draw again (Some rare times tethys > tethys can miss its timing but this is not common). Herald changing seems odd.

My guess would be they did not change the script of the cards (why would they?) but they changed something in the game to make it run smoother or whatever and it had unintended consequences. Either that or the cards were doing something illegal and they got changed to fix that but it also broke there legal effects.



Pancake, thanks for your reply! Here is my take!

My Herald deck can only be beat if you go first, and you get a really great draw!
Limiting my Tethys has turned my Herald deck from a 9 out of 10 win deck to a 5 out of 5 deck!
You asked, why they would change the effect... I don't know, but it is apparent they did! Tethys only allows for 1 additional draw, even if you draw a fairy, but 2 weeks ago, I was drawing like 15 cards at a time!
As far as Herald goes, I have had several instances, lately, where monster and graveyard effect have activated with out Herald being allowed to respond! I can give card names, if needed, but there are several!
The problem with Herald started at the same time as the problem with Tethys, so the problems are related, and intentional! AGAIN, why, I don't know, but I think it was because the deck was to strong!
Like I said, the deck has higher than a 90% win ratio, and if i go first is basically unbeatable! I think the programmer plays, and I pawned him, and he changed the card effects to suit his decks.... If not, you tell me why Tethys is not working right, when it was 2 weeks ago....? Something changed!
Well, what I want to know is how to get it fixed.... Can you help me?
J_BYYX
2013-01-17T11:13:41Z
Just checked Tethys. It works same way as it should. Maybe problems on your side.

Check settings tab, maybe you disabled Auto chain order. Also try pressing A.
Ericko90
2013-01-17T15:42:54Z
Originally Posted by: MulattoRedd 

...My Herald deck can only be beat if you go first, and you get a really great draw!...
...I don't know, but I THINK IT WAS BECAUSE THE DECK WAS TO STRONG!...
...Like I said, the deck has higher than a 90% win ratio, and if i go first is basically unbeatable! I THINK THE PROGRAMMER PLAYS, AND I PAWNED HIM, AND HE CHANGED THE CARD EFFECTS TO SUIT HIS DECKS...



Pardon me, but do you honestly think that a professional programmer who plays online with his/her own program, would change some card's effects to suit his deck, because you (believe) you duel against him and pawned him?

With all respect, it just sounds stupid. Unless the programmer is an arrogant 12-year-old boy/girl who can't stand being beaten so badly by a person who claims his/her deck has 90% win ratio and basically unbeatable if going first; I think this is just a baseless accusation.

Chaos Pancake, who encounters the same problem; makes a more logical assumption (unintended consequences due to favorable changes) and even attached a replay to show the bug.
And Percy has got his hands on the fix, like he says in this thread started by Chaos Pancake:
http://www.ygopro.co/tab...ddess-of-Light-bugg.aspx 


I'm by no means planning to start a debate with you or whatever, but next time why don't you do the same as Chaos Pancake did rather than boasting about your so-unbeatable deck and posting the same topic three times?


I'm sorry if i offended you in any way, I didn't mean it.

p.s. if you really are sure and confident that your deck is that good, why don't you post your decklist or a replay for many of us (at least myself) to see? It's always nice to see good decks around.
Chaos Pancake
2013-01-17T16:31:41Z
Originally Posted by: MulattoRedd 

Originally Posted by: Chaos Pancake 

I have noticed the Tehtys one. My fairy burn FTK used to work but alas no longer. As long as the draw happened last you should get to draw again (Some rare times tethys > tethys can miss its timing but this is not common). Herald changing seems odd.

My guess would be they did not change the script of the cards (why would they?) but they changed something in the game to make it run smoother or whatever and it had unintended consequences. Either that or the cards were doing something illegal and they got changed to fix that but it also broke there legal effects.



Pancake, thanks for your reply! Here is my take!

My Herald deck can only be beat if you go first, and you get a really great draw!
Limiting my Tethys has turned my Herald deck from a 9 out of 10 win deck to a 5 out of 5 deck!
You asked, why they would change the effect... I don't know, but it is apparent they did! Tethys only allows for 1 additional draw, even if you draw a fairy, but 2 weeks ago, I was drawing like 15 cards at a time!
As far as Herald goes, I have had several instances, lately, where monster and graveyard effect have activated with out Herald being allowed to respond! I can give card names, if needed, but there are several!
The problem with Herald started at the same time as the problem with Tethys, so the problems are related, and intentional! AGAIN, why, I don't know, but I think it was because the deck was to strong!
Like I said, the deck has higher than a 90% win ratio, and if i go first is basically unbeatable! I think the programmer plays, and I pawned him, and he changed the card effects to suit his decks.... If not, you tell me why Tethys is not working right, when it was 2 weeks ago....? Something changed!
Well, what I want to know is how to get it fixed.... Can you help me?



Herald is good but it has a key weakness: It cannot chain twice in a chain. I would abuse this by chaining effect veilers and fiendish chain. Game 2 i'd side in mind crush, when you play Dawn of the herald, i'd chain mind crush and call herald and then your ritual would resolve without effect. Not sure how your beating Wind-up or Evilswarm that often.

The programmer would be happy to lose. He would not ruin all the hard work of the program just because of you silly!!


Originally Posted by: J_BYYX 

Just checked Tethys. It works same way as it should. Maybe problems on your side.

Check settings tab, maybe you disabled Auto chain order. Also try pressing A.



Actually it does not work correctly. Perhaps you tested on LAN mode and it works there?
MulattoRedd
2013-01-18T03:40:27Z
Originally Posted by: J_BYYX 

Just checked Tethys. It works same way as it should. Maybe problems on your side.

Check settings tab, maybe you disabled Auto chain order. Also try pressing A.



I just checked Tethys again, to make sure... Tethys is not working right, still! Use it in multi-player, and you will see!
MulattoRedd
2013-01-18T04:12:40Z
Originally Posted by: Ericko90 

Originally Posted by: MulattoRedd 

...My Herald deck can only be beat if you go first, and you get a really great draw!...
...I don't know, but I THINK IT WAS BECAUSE THE DECK WAS TO STRONG!...
...Like I said, the deck has higher than a 90% win ratio, and if i go first is basically unbeatable! I THINK THE PROGRAMMER PLAYS, AND I PAWNED HIM, AND HE CHANGED THE CARD EFFECTS TO SUIT HIS DECKS...



Pardon me, but do you honestly think that a professional programmer who plays online with his/her own program, would change some card's effects to suit his deck, because you (believe) you duel against him and pawned him?

With all respect, it just sounds stupid. Unless the programmer is an arrogant 12-year-old boy/girl who can't stand being beaten so badly by a person who claims his/her deck has 90% win ratio and basically unbeatable if going first; I think this is just a baseless accusation.

Chaos Pancake, who encounters the same problem; makes a more logical assumption (unintended consequences due to favorable changes) and even attached a replay to show the bug.
And Percy has got his hands on the fix, like he says in this thread started by Chaos Pancake:
http://www.ygopro.co/tab...ddess-of-Light-bugg.aspx 


I'm by no means planning to start a debate with you or whatever, but next time why don't you do the same as Chaos Pancake did rather than boasting about your so-unbeatable deck and posting the same topic three times?


I'm sorry if i offended you in any way, I didn't mean it.

p.s. if you really are sure and confident that your deck is that good, why don't you post your decklist or a replay for many of us (at least myself) to see? It's always nice to see good decks around.



OK, YES, I THINK THAT SOME PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD WOULD CHEAT TO WIN, EVEN PROGRAMMERS, AND YES, I THINK THAT MY DECK WAS VICTIMIZED AS A RESULT OF BEING TO STRONG! YOU DON'T AGREE.... OK! SO NOW, IF IT WASN'T DONE INTENTIONALLY, I NEED A FIX; "AS I SAID" EARLIER IN THIS THREAD!
AS FAR AS MY RECIPE FOR MY HERALD DECK.... EVERYBODY IS TRYING TO MAKE A HERALD DECK, NOW THAT I HAVE CRUSH EVERYONE! I DON'T WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO POSERS! MAKE YOUR OWN DECK.... USE GADJITRON THAT CARD IS POPULAR!
I AM GOING TO SEE WHERE THAT LINK LEAD, AND SEE IF THERE IS A FIX THERE! IF THERE IS ..... REALLY... THANKS!
MulattoRedd
2013-01-18T04:20:04Z
Originally Posted by: Chaos Pancake 

Originally Posted by: MulattoRedd 

Originally Posted by: Chaos Pancake 

I have noticed the Tehtys one. My fairy burn FTK used to work but alas no longer. As long as the draw happened last you should get to draw again (Some rare times tethys > tethys can miss its timing but this is not common). Herald changing seems odd.

My guess would be they did not change the script of the cards (why would they?) but they changed something in the game to make it run smoother or whatever and it had unintended consequences. Either that or the cards were doing something illegal and they got changed to fix that but it also broke there legal effects.



Pancake, thanks for your reply! Here is my take!

My Herald deck can only be beat if you go first, and you get a really great draw!
Limiting my Tethys has turned my Herald deck from a 9 out of 10 win deck to a 5 out of 5 deck!
You asked, why they would change the effect... I don't know, but it is apparent they did! Tethys only allows for 1 additional draw, even if you draw a fairy, but 2 weeks ago, I was drawing like 15 cards at a time!
As far as Herald goes, I have had several instances, lately, where monster and graveyard effect have activated with out Herald being allowed to respond! I can give card names, if needed, but there are several!
The problem with Herald started at the same time as the problem with Tethys, so the problems are related, and intentional! AGAIN, why, I don't know, but I think it was because the deck was to strong!
Like I said, the deck has higher than a 90% win ratio, and if i go first is basically unbeatable! I think the programmer plays, and I pawned him, and he changed the card effects to suit his decks.... If not, you tell me why Tethys is not working right, when it was 2 weeks ago....? Something changed!
Well, what I want to know is how to get it fixed.... Can you help me?



Herald is good but it has a key weakness: It cannot chain twice in a chain. I would abuse this by chaining effect veilers and fiendish chain. Game 2 i'd side in mind crush, when you play Dawn of the herald, i'd chain mind crush and call herald and then your ritual would resolve without effect. Not sure how your beating Wind-up or Evilswarm that often.

The programmer would be happy to lose. He would not ruin all the hard work of the program just because of you silly!!


Originally Posted by: J_BYYX 

Just checked Tethys. It works same way as it should. Maybe problems on your side.

Check settings tab, maybe you disabled Auto chain order. Also try pressing A.



Actually it does not work correctly. Perhaps you tested on LAN mode and it works there?



THANK YOU FOR ACTUALLY CHECKING AND SEEING THAT TETHYS IS BROKEN, BUT.... HERALD CAN ACTIVATE AS MANY TIMES AS YOU WANT IN A CHAIN AS LONG AS YOU HAVE A FAIRY TO ACTIVATE HERALD'S EFFECT! THAT IS HOW IT IS SUPPOSED TO WORK ANY WAY!
Ericko90
2013-01-18T08:52:26Z
Originally Posted by: MulattoRedd 


...I THINK THAT SOME PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD WOULD CHEAT TO WIN, EVEN PROGRAMMERS...
...I THINK THAT MY DECK WAS VICTIMIZED AS A RESULT OF BEING TO STRONG...
...EVERYBODY IS TRYING TO MAKE A HERALD DECK, NOW THAT I HAVE CRUSH EVERYONE...



This is simply hilarious, I don't even know what to say anymore.

As Percy said, the fix will be included in the next version.

And please, stop posting the same topic again and again. Don't you see that Percy said not to do that again the thread has been locked? Seriously, just be patient and wait for the fix. Like we all do with the swap frog problem.
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