Cursedragon
2013-09-01T10:05:59Z
Hello, i built a deck to summon neos wiseman the fastest possible but i have big dead draw with my deck the most of time... Any ideas to improve it in speed o to have less dead draw?
I think there are better ways to summon it but idk what
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Cursedragon
2013-09-02T09:08:35Z
6 download ,52 views and no answers...
Lauron
2013-09-02T10:20:40Z
Go to Flash topic-Deck Mechanics or something like that
flowoftime
2013-09-02T12:10:48Z
Cursedragon
2013-09-06T16:43:23Z
Lauron:Flash deck mechanic is dead

flowoftime:Thanks for the wikia ,its alittle better with damage condenser and prisma but my deck is still slow i must wait 30 turns to summon wiseman because he don't want to be drawned, i know there are gold sarcophasus,dead diver and "Different Dimension Capsule" but i don't have slot to add them and idk with what 's card i can remplace.

My new wiseman deck list:
--Main--
Elemental HERO Neos x2
Honest x1
Yubel - The Ultimate Nightmare x1
Yubel - Terror Incarnate x1
Neos Wiseman x3
Yubel x3
Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning x1
Elemental HERO Prisma x2
Elemental HERO Stratos x1
Mystic Tomato x3
Heavy Storm x1
Dark Hole x1
Foolish Burial x1
Monster Reborn x1
Mystical Space Typhoon x2
Limit Reverse x3
O - Oversoul x2
Torrential Tribute x2
Dark Bribe x2
Damage Condenser x2
Hand Destruction x3
Mist Body x2
--Extra--
Number C39: Utopia Ray x1
Number 39: Utopia x1
Number 16: Shock Master x1
Photon Papilloperative x1
Steelswarm Roach x1
Maestroke the Symphony Djinn x1
Lavalval Chain x2
Daigusto Emeral x2
Abyss Dweller x1
Gagaga Cowboy x1
Number 66: Master Key Beetle x1
Elemental HERO Dark Neos x2
--Side--
Herald of Creation x1
Armageddon Knight x1
Phantom of Chaos x1
Chaos-End Master x1
Effect Veiler x1
Mind Control x1
Lightning Vortex x1
Fake Hero x2
Pot of Duality x1
Book of Moon x1
Compulsory Evacuation Device x2
Solemn Warning x1
flowoftime
2013-09-06T22:16:30Z
you already put 2 Lavalval Chain to search for Neos Wiseman.
Cursedragon
2013-09-07T03:45:28Z
but i have rarely 2 monsters lvl 4 in the field to summon it.
arlon_kyo
2013-09-07T09:49:43Z
I have been many deck aroud Neos Wiseman as well.But, the real problem is Neos Wiseman is not a extra deck(fusion) monster so that is make him harder to be summoned.Maybe someone could make a anime version Neos Wiseman(which is fusion) then we can summon him at the first turn.But for decks consistency ,i can't put both Neos & Yubel SS engine together.

The only way i can think of is SS Neos for grave and SS Yubel from deck,but Yubel and Neos is very hurt if u draw them at the starting hand.........(I want anime version of Neos Wiseman! DX)

The first deck is somehow refered to Judai's deck (Card Trooper + Miracle contact engine).It is very rely on luck that u can mill the Neos.

The second deck is Prisma engine.Which is using Daigusto Emerald to ss Neos from Graveyard. Prisma send Neos to grave.

so,i feel the 2nd one is more consistent to ss Wiseman fastly(if no disturbance)
Actually i have many option to do many variant but some are not so consistent as well.>.>

Try and see if it may give u inspiration.

Note: All these two deck are based on September 2013 list (OCG)
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Cursedragon
2013-09-07T11:27:21Z
A big problem is the dead draw too ,its for that i use the hand destruction to send yubel/incarnate/ultimate/neos in the grave and by the same occasion search neos wiseman or useful card in my hand.
Me too i can't put neos and yubel but i don't understand why you removed yubel terror and ultimate,they help me alot to protect me in waiting the good cards and i think the combo neos wiseman+yubel terror incarnate is really great.

Your idea to summon prisma to send neos in grave and special summon kagetokage for daigusto and summon neos is very good but i always afraid if i don't have yubel in field or neos wiseman in the hand ,neos be destroyed by a stronger monster or an effect and like there are few cards to protect me in your deck,it could be painfull.

I like the cards like:
-supervise to have directly the effect with alius ,send neos in the grave and special summon it later if alius is destroyed.
-allure of darkness to draw 2 new card or send to grave the troublesome monsters.
-herald of creation to have neos wiseman or black luster if the other player succeeded to destroy it but maybe i must remplace black luster by DAD because of alot darkness monster.

2 replays with the useful yubel terror and DAd for the final blow:
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arlon_kyo
2013-09-07T12:10:17Z
Originally Posted by: Cursedragon 

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for replay no .1 and no.2 ,i won't tell any comment.
For replay no.3 ,you already dead in turn 7 if that deck is played by me.

Pls PM me if have any queries,thank you.

Edit:Something is not so suitable to talk at here
yutsuki_ame
2013-09-07T12:25:40Z
Originally Posted by: arlon_kyo 

Originally Posted by: Cursedragon 

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For replay no.3 ,you already dead in turn 7 if that deck is played by me.



It seems i can make a Quasar and GG already in that turn [:sleep:]