Ukato
  • Ukato
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2014-01-25T20:13:01Z
I don't have a replay.

The cards before. My opponent had one monster; Stardust Dragon. No spells or traps. I had four traps; Mirror Force, Fiendish Chain, Gozen Match, and Bottomless Hole. No monsters.

1. It's my opponent's turn. He drew a card. He summon a dragon and then he used Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon's effect to special summon it.
2. I used Fiendish Chain on Stardust Dragon to cancel its effect.
3. My opponent went to battle phase.
4. He attacked me directly with Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon.
5. I used Mirror Force to counter the attack.
6. My opponent canceled my Mirror Force by using Stardust Dragon's effect.
7. Both Stardust Dragon and my Fiendish Chain was destroyed.
8. I lost cause I only had 600 LP.

The question here is that how did this happen? Is this a bug?

Fiendish Chain's effect and site:
Activate this card by targeting 1 Effect Monster on the field; its effects are negated, also it cannot attack. When it is destroyed, destroy this card.
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Fiendish_Chain 

Stardust Dragon's effect and site:
During either player's turn, when a card or effect is activated that would destroy a card(s) on the field: You can Tribute this card; negate the activation, and if you do, destroy it. During the End Phase, if this effect was activated this turn (and was not negated): You can Special Summon this card from your Graveyard.
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Stardust_Dragon 
rob26
2014-01-25T20:20:43Z
I think its beacause stardust its quiter XD first he used the efected>pay price: send him to the grave, that make it lose the effect of chain (isnt in the field) then the effect works negating your mirror...
Ukato
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2014-01-25T20:33:58Z
Originally Posted by: rob26 

I think its beacause stardust its quiter XD first he used the efected>pay price: send him to the grave, that make it lose the effect of chain (isnt in the field) then the effect works negating your mirror...



That doesn't really make any sense. The effect was canceled. So I don't think it matter if the Stardust was much quicker or not.
FTON
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2014-01-25T20:36:38Z
I think he's right, no matter what the situation is, Stardust's effect when it is targeted by Fiendish Chain is Negated, i suppose this is a bug in the game.
Steeldarkeagel
2014-01-25T20:40:27Z
Stardust Dragon Sends himself to the Graveyard as a Cost to Activate his Effect. Fiendish Chain does not stop cards from Activating Effects.

So what happens is Stardust Activates and Fiendish Chain stops working on it as it is not long equipped to it. So Stardust can then Resolve and negate Mirror Force.

In conclusion never use Fiendish Chain on Stardust Dragon.
rob26
2014-01-25T20:44:13Z
Originally Posted by: Ukato 

Originally Posted by: rob26 

I think its beacause stardust its quiter XD first he used the efected>pay price: send him to the grave, that make it lose the effect of chain (isnt in the field) then the effect works negating your mirror...



That doesn't really make any sense. The effect was canceled. So I don't think it matter if the Stardust was much quicker or not.



Well looks like i was right [:dance:]
SGJin
2014-01-25T20:50:47Z
Its not a bug or a glitch, Stardust Dragon was sent to the graveyard as a cost (chain does not negate costs), and since stardust dragon is on longer on the field, fiendish chain can no longer negate his effect.
This also goes for any other card that activates in a similar way vs fiendish chain such as Cardcar D, Rescue Rabbit, Fool of Propecy, etc.

Now if you used an Effect Veiler, Stardust Dragon would not be able to resolve its effect, since Veiler does not specify that the card has to be on the field.
FTON
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2014-01-25T20:58:04Z
I think those guys above were right.
aevis
2014-01-26T19:19:45Z
its working as intended.
Fiendish Chain works like a personalized skill drain, in which it continuously target the monster to negate its effect.

Since stardust dragon goes to the GY as a cost, fiendish chain is no longer targetting it, therefore the negation effect proceeds accordingly.