Satanas
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2014-02-05T16:04:32Z
They can be Destroyed by card effects such as dark hole, when they should not be.
Steeldarkeagel
2014-02-05T17:02:10Z
Just tested and they were not destroyed by Dark Hole while they both had Xyz Materials.

Can you post a replay showing them not working as they should?
Satanas
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2014-02-05T17:40:52Z
sorry that works now somehow, it's blackship that targets and destroys them.

Strange, I can't get a replay for it.
adriano
2014-02-05T18:22:06Z
Blackship don't destroy, it send to the grave. Is a different thing.
Satanas
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2014-02-05T22:11:48Z
SATELLITE CANNON

It can be attacked by Xyz's which is not allowed.

Also, its base can be as well.
Steeldarkeagel
2014-02-05T22:24:58Z
Xyz monsters have Ranks not Levels so they are unaffected by cards like Gravity Bind
Satanas
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2014-02-06T05:48:13Z
You misunderstand.

This card cannot be destroyed by battle with a Level 7 or lower monster.

It's hard to have a level of 7 or higher when you have a RANK
XTAL
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2014-02-06T08:48:25Z
Originally Posted by: Satanas 

You misunderstand.

This card cannot be destroyed by battle with a Level 7 or lower monster.

It's hard to have a level of 7 or higher when you have a RANK


Actually "Reese the Ice Mistress" as well as "Satellite Cannon" can easily be destroyed by battle with Xyz monsters.
This is a ruling KONAMI decided.

Steeldarkeagel
2014-02-06T10:36:28Z
Originally Posted by: Satanas 

You misunderstand.

This card cannot be destroyed by battle with a Level 7 or lower monster.

It's hard to have a level of 7 or higher when you have a RANK



If it said "This card can only be destroyed in battle by a Level 8 or higher monster" then you would be correct.

But as myself and XTAL have said Xyz monsters have Ranks not Levels so if a card states something meaning certain Levels cannot do something then it does not effect Xyz monsters.
Satanas
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2014-02-06T15:31:48Z
They ruled that? :/ but that's completely illogical

awww

it makes no sense though, because a monster with rank has no level, and therefore cannot be higher than level seven.

http://yugioh.wikia.com/...Rulings:Satellite_Cannon 

and even here, no mention of it.

I'm so sure :/ guhh
Percival18
2014-02-06T15:45:50Z
Originally Posted by: Satanas 

They ruled that? :/ but that's completely illogical

awww

it makes no sense though, because a monster with rank has no level, and therefore cannot be higher than level seven.

http://yugioh.wikia.com/...Rulings:Satellite_Cannon 

and even here, no mention of it.

I'm so sure :/ guhh


Anything that mentions a level does NOT apply to Xyz monsters. Whether it makes sense or not doesn't matter, that is the rule.

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Xyz_Monster 
Quote:

Any effects that would refer to the Level of a monster, such as those of "Gravity Bind", "Level Limit - Area B", "Roulette Barrel", "Star Changer" and even "Burden of the Mighty" cannot be applied to any Xyz Monsters under any circumstances.


Satanas
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2014-02-07T05:20:02Z
Aww Konami [:wall:]

All those effects need a level to work though. Satellite Cannon doesn't.

This effect refers to levels, but it's ot a requirement. Like it doesn't target the level, or do anything to the monster based on the level. It's just a requirement a monster has to meet to be able to destroy it. And ranks can't reach that.

Oh well, I guess not all things have to make perfect sense, just kind of disappointing.
Steeldarkeagel
2014-02-07T10:48:54Z
Originally Posted by: Satanas 

Aww Konami [:wall:]

All those effects need a level to work though. Satellite Cannon doesn't.

This effect refers to levels, but it's ot a requirement. Like it doesn't target the level, or do anything to the monster based on the level. It's just a requirement a monster has to meet to be able to destroy it. And ranks can't reach that.

Oh well, I guess not all things have to make perfect sense, just kind of disappointing.



It does not say that though. It has a requirement that monsters not be below a certain level and the Xyz monsters are not below that level.

As I said above you are confusing the effect with this wording: This card can only be destroyed in battle by a Level 8 or higher monster

It would be a different story with that wording as Xyz monsters could then not destroy it.
Satanas
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2014-02-07T18:06:21Z
Hm. They should make an erratum :/

Thanks btw
karasuhebi
2014-02-07T18:56:18Z
Originally Posted by: Satanas 

Hm. They should make an erratum :/

Thanks btw



There's no need for that. You're confusing 'requirement' with 'condition'. Satellite Cannon has the condition that monsters of a certain level can't destroy it. It does NOT have the requirement that only monsters of a certain level can destroy it.