amorythedevil
2014-03-16T03:57:32Z
The descriptions for the Quick-Play Spell of Pain and its Trap counterpart Barrel Behind the door in YGOPRO both read "Activate only when a card's effect that would inflict damage to you is activated. Your opponent takes the damage instead." After some testing of these cards in a Marik-themed Torture deck, I've noticed that half of the versatility of the card is inapplicable. Since the description does not specify that it can only be activated in response to an opponent's card, it should be able to reflect the controller's card effects as well, allowing for devastating blows upon the death of a Granadora or Giant Kozaky, or even a total wipeout upon the activation of Winged Dragon of Ra. (Spell of Pain was notably used to this effect in response to Ring of Destruction in the original anime.)

However, none of these controller-specific effects seem to be able to activate, in my testing. The cards work perfectly well on opponents' card effects - everything from Magic Cylinder to Nightmare Wheel to Winged Kuriboh LV10. However, letting a Giant Kozaky suicide alone on the field with a Spell of Pain or Barrel (set the previous turn) behind it only causes a clumsy loss of 2500 LP. Not a single self-damaging effect seems to allow these two cards to activate.

I'm willing to let Spell of Pain slide because I see that it's been amended in a newer version to read: "When your opponent activates a card or effect that would inflict effect damage to you: Your opponent takes the effect damage from that card or effect, instead." I would ask, then, if this is the version of the card that YGOPRO wants to use, that the description be changed appropriately. However, Barrel Behind the Door contains no such errata; in fact, in three different versions of the card, no "opponent-only" modifier was added. I would hope then, that this card's full effects could be reinstated.

PS - I also tried testing these cards in response to an opponent-owned Lava Golem inflicting its Standby Phase damage on its controller. No change, no activation.
SGJin
2014-03-16T04:17:04Z
Barrel Behind the Door works fine for me, I managed to reflect damage from my own Giant Kozaky and damage from Ring of Destruction successfully to my opponent.
amorythedevil
2014-03-16T04:54:32Z
Wait... Okay, you're right about that. And I realized Ra is "pay" effect, not a "damage" effect, so that wouldn't work. However, I still can't get Malevolent Mech - Goku En to activate the effect - still definitely taking 2400 from that. Tremendous Fire would also be a valuable card in this deck if Barrel would reflect the 500 to-owner damage for 1500 total, but it's also not allowing activation.

Thanks for the corrections, though, that's good to know. And again, the added benefits of having the Quick-Play version of the card functioning would be very nice.
yumekage
2014-03-16T07:03:26Z
Spell of Pain has been errata'd to read "When your opponent activates a card or effect that would inflict effect damage to you: Your opponent takes the effect damage from that card or effect, instead." So it won't work with your own effects.

Tremendous Fire allowed me to activate Barrel when I tested it.

As for the Goku En issue, I don't see why it wouldn't work...unless there's a timing issue, since it gets sent, and then does the damage. But personally, I'm leaning more towards bug, until someone offers an explanation.