Poll Question : Which of these Decks do you see as more likely to top after PRIO comes out?

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Prudence94
2014-04-07T06:33:12Z
While taking a look at the new cards from DUEA on the Organization,I noticed there were the results of some Japanese tournaments and I took a look....
With great horror I noticed that Artfifacts are beign splashed everywhere.... [:sad:]
It looks like in OCG they didn't even completely got rid of Dragon Rulers and we already have they're substitues...
In one of the latest tournaments almost half of the Decks were Chronomaly-Artifacts... So let's prepare us for a format of Rank 5 Spam...
Then from what I can see Geargia is topping a lot too,and Madolches are starting to win too [:lol:]
Yeah my beloved pets are starting to top![:smile:] I just hope my Owl doesn't end up on the list cause of this....
Anyway what do you guys think about this?
For now it's just OCG but PRIO is due in a moth time so I think we'll some interesting changes in the meta...

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MrTripA
2014-04-07T07:07:23Z
As a geargia player I can say that geargias are not going to be the next "D-Ruler" of the upcoming format
I also saw the lists at the organization in which a cupple of geargia decks topped. But they did it for the same reason as the geargia dude that won a ycs.... They mained a lot of stuff for chronomaly artifacts. And I guess that all those chronomaly-artifact users sided cards for the mirror match mainly. Because, again as a geargia player, I know the deck very well (I've been playing since its release in REDU, and have won local tournaments 3 times with them, and the others I've been at least in the top 4), and I can say the deck has a many weak spots and the side for them is not that complicated and totally kills the deck...

The thing with them is that mostly people doesn't expect to play against them... For example last tournament I played It was all mostly fire fists and bujin decks. I go with my geargias and my opponents have no side prepared for them, in that same tournament I faced a spellbook deck (long time no see them) and had nothing to side for them, and won because i drew a better hand in the last duel.

That and the fact that the backrow of the deck is incredibly flexible, is what makes geargias good. But if they start seeing a lot of play people are going to start siding the cards that can realy kill the deck. (actually more important than the cards you side against them is the time you use them, In the geargia combos there are some decisive points in which if you strik they can hardly recover).

Also the "natural deck" (whithout maining stuff for an specific deck) desn't have such a good match-up against certain decks...

Chronomaly artifacts on the other hand are insane!!! I've been testing on ygopro and with a good hand you can make both Gorgonic Guardian (which is awsome) and Constellar Pleiades in one turn and have backrow to deal with other stuff that those guys can't deal with, which are very little things... The artifact engine goes almost perfect with chronomaly... And even though is more of a control deck rather than an otk deck you will surely beat your opponent in 2-3 turns.

As for Madolches I understand how the deck works, yet I'm not a madolche player. I can see the potential in them. But I see the same potential in Sylvans and in Genryus, and in Inzector with some indirect support, etc.

I'm no madolche expert so I would love to hear your thoughts about it. Probably I'm wrong and they are better than how I think they are...

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2014-04-07T08:38:08Z
- Artifacts, the temp agency -
"Theosophy of the Artifacts" + "Artifact Moralltach" = "Nontargeting Raigeki Break"(though cannot destroy a face-down card...)
"This card cannot be targeted!" → *destroyed by "Moralltach" SSed via "Theosophy" or "Call of the Haunted"*
Activate MST to destroy "Theosophy" before it activates → The "Theosophy" will destroy a card on your field
Activate "Solemn Warning" to negate "Theosophy" → The "Theosophy" will destroy a card on your field
Activate "Mobius the Mega Monarch" or "Night Beam" → "Theosophy" and ”Moralltach" will damage your field

----Artifacts, they are everywhere

Nowadays even Six Samurai hire these absurd stuff...TCG KONMAI is going to release "Artifact Scythe", so it's clear that many TCG players will put some copies of "Theosophy", "Moralltach" and "Scythe" in every their deck. "Theosophy" must be banned or at least limited in order to keep the variety of deck building.

"Chronomaly Nebra Disk" and "Number 36: Chronomaly Fork Hyuk", which gave huge power to Chronomaly, are now OCG exclusive. Therefore TCG Chronomaly Artifacts won't be the top ----- unless the 2 cards advance to TCG areas.
jacollo
2014-04-07T08:45:48Z
Prudence, you kinda mocked me when I said that Artifacts are one of the main reasons Heavy won't come back. By the results in OCG tournaments I can say I was right. Artifacts can do a lot of damage and can combo with pretty much EVERYTHING! OCG is a perfect banlist for this Archetype, with Heavy Storm you can make your opponent help you do your thing.

I don't want to call myself Artifact Expert, but I did some Combo decks. XTAL is pretty much right, Theosophy should be hit as soon as possible.
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NinjaUgal
2014-04-07T09:32:42Z
Originally Posted by: jacollo 

Theosophy should be hit as soon as possible.



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Prudence94
2014-04-07T09:46:03Z
Originally Posted by: jacollo 

Prudence, you kinda mocked me when I said that Artifacts are one of the main reasons Heavy won't come back. By the results in OCG tournaments I can say I was right. Artifacts can do a lot of damage and can combo with pretty much EVERYTHING! OCG is a perfect banlist for this Archetype, with Heavy Storm you can make your opponent help you do your thing.

I don't want to call myself Artifact Expert, but I did some Combo decks. XTAL is pretty much right, Theosophy should be hit as soon as possible.



You know until today I didn't think I'd ever say something like this but it turns out that you were right.... I understimated Artifacts,now I'm not that sure to want Heavy Back... but I still want a way to deal with Backrow that is not called Exction Knight,Black Rose or Jd.... Since Heavy would give too much advantage to Artifacts,why not limiting Cold Wave? I'd prefer Giant Trunade but of course it'd be abused more than Heavy so it's not gonna happen... but I think Cold Wave is fine at 1,yeah it enables OTK but what's the problem with that????
And about Theosopy yeah I agree it should be ASAP but we all know that Konami will want to make money out of it so we'll have to wait,If we're lucky at least till September to see it on the list... [:sad:]

Edit: I've just read the effect of Artifact Scythe and WTF!!!!?????? That's awfully unfair! I demand something to stop that Deck in July!
P.S Yeah I know I'm naive,since there's no way Konami will touch its brand new source of money.... So JD I desperately need you! [:cry:]

Originally Posted by: NinjaUgal 

Originally Posted by: jacollo 

Theosophy should be hit as soon as possible.



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Completely Off Topic:Thx Ninja you reminded me to download Game Of Thrones! [:lol:]
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2014-04-07T11:54:54Z
And the cycle repeats itself...
jacollo
2014-04-07T14:04:45Z
I think Artifacts will be hit next Format, probably limiting Moralltach, Beagaltach and Theosophy. Scythe's Effect is insane, it gives the Artifacts total control over what's happening on the opponent's turn [:doh:]

With Scythe Artifacts can:
1) Destroy backrow(double cyclone, malevolent catastrophe, opponent's heavy storm in OCG)
2) Destroy a Face-Up card(Moralltach)
3) Draw(Caduceus)
4) Prevent Battle/Destruction(Achiles/Aegis)
5) Recycle Artifacts(Failnaught)
6) Redraw Hand and Change Effect(Durandal)
7) XYZ Summon during opponent's turn(Artifact's Unleashed)
8) Prevent Extra Deck summon(Scythe)
9) Make opponent skip Battle Phase(Artifact Movement)

Is it just me or is that A LOT you can do on the OPPONENT'S turn? If you ask me this is going to be WORSE than Dragon Rulers. Mostly cause it can be used with EVERYTHING, not to mention most people hate backrow and try to destroy it which is an ideal habitat for Artifacts.
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NinjaUgal
2014-04-07T14:20:28Z
they forced us to use pendulum summon? well need many breakthrough skill.
light prisoning mirror? artifact have many spell/trap destructor.
I only think one : barrier statue of the 'Element'
pure artifact will kneel down to this card (except Light attribute).
thats why they combine it with chronomally, and limit ophion...
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rob26
2014-04-07T14:32:22Z
Originally Posted by: NinjaUgal 

they forced us to use pendulum summon? well need many breakthrough skill.
light prisoning mirror? artifact have many spell/trap destructor.
I only think one : barrier statue of the 'Element'
pure artifact will kneel down to this card (except Light attribute).
thats why they combine it with chronomally, and limit ophion...



I wanted the deck to see the build and the weak points (i dont remember if i fight against it, and i dont like it so i didnt build it)... anyway, the artifact archetype have the monsters, 2 quick play cards and 1 trap.
They play from the back right? trying to lure the oponent to destroy them... im the kind of people who likes to "freeze" (to avoid effects that trigger when "destroy/ed") the back row before attacking (trap stun/royal decree, mostly trap stun XD) but they can use the quick to destroy their cards maybe dark bribe (i dont like to give a free card to my opponent)... i think their effects works after being destroyed, in the graveyard, so debunk can do a fine work.
Yes, they are all light and lv 5, pleiades? such a trouble, and its mostly sure they run honest (light decks dont forget it) so some fiendish chain/break skill can work too.

P.S.: im going to tune my koa'ki meiru to hunt light monsters [:dance:]
jacollo
2014-04-07T14:40:13Z
I guess I'll have to get my old Ally of Justice deck and go hunt to Swords, Spears, Axes and Shields.

Following robs thinking, I guess most people will side Ally of Justice Cycle Reader. He can banish 2 Light monsters for opponent's grave on either's players turn...
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XTAL
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2014-04-07T14:41:34Z
Originally Posted by: jacollo 

With Scythe Artifacts can:
1) Destroy backrow(double cyclone, malevolent catastrophe, opponent's heavy storm in OCG)
2) Destroy a Face-Up card(Moralltach)
3) Draw(Caduceus)
4) Prevent Battle/Destruction(Achiles/Aegis)
5) Recycle Artifacts(Failnaught)
6) Redraw Hand and Change Effect(Durandal)
7) XYZ Summon during opponent's turn(Artifact's Unleashed)
8) Prevent Extra Deck summon(Scythe)
9) Make opponent skip Battle Phase(Artifact Movement)


Wait, you forget "Longinus"http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Artifact_Longinus 

4) Prevent Battle/Destruction/Banish(Achiles/Aegis/Longinus)


They received an anti-anti-Artifact cards card from KONMAI[:sneaky:]
rob26
2014-04-07T14:42:49Z
Originally Posted by: jacollo 

I guess I'll have to get my old Ally of Justice deck and go hunt to Swords, Spears, Axes and Shields.

Following robs thinking, I guess most people will side Ally of Justice Cycle Destroyer. He can banish 2 Light monsters for opponent's grave on either's players turn...



OwO not bad, but i think was cycle reader, the ally with spider form lv3...
jacollo
2014-04-07T14:44:16Z
Originally Posted by: XTAL 

Originally Posted by: jacollo 

With Scythe Artifacts can:
1) Destroy backrow(double cyclone, malevolent catastrophe, opponent's heavy storm in OCG)
2) Destroy a Face-Up card(Moralltach)
3) Draw(Caduceus)
4) Prevent Battle/Destruction(Achiles/Aegis)
5) Recycle Artifacts(Failnaught)
6) Redraw Hand and Change Effect(Durandal)
7) XYZ Summon during opponent's turn(Artifact's Unleashed)
8) Prevent Extra Deck summon(Scythe)
9) Make opponent skip Battle Phase(Artifact Movement)


Wait, you forget "Longinus"http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Artifact_Longinus 

4) Prevent Battle/Destruction/Banish(Achiles/Aegis/Longinus)


They received an anti-anti-Artifact card from KONMAI[:sneaky:]



Never used him, maybe that's the cause [:lol:]

Anyway, I forgot to say one thing.

CALLED IT!!
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jacollo
2014-04-08T08:37:50Z
If Konami will keep this tendency then we should start getting ready for Rank 3 spam next year. XD
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Prudence94
2014-04-08T14:37:39Z
Originally Posted by: jacollo 

If Konami will keep this tendency then we should start getting ready for Rank 3 spam next year. XD



Wait what do you mean? [:confu:] What Deck can Spam level 3? I can only think of Madolche....
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jacollo
2014-04-08T14:48:41Z
Last year we got Rank 7 spam(Dragon Rulers), this year we'll have Rank 5 spam(Artifacts). Following this tendency next year we'll get a Rank 3 spam something....
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Emiliavance
2014-04-08T14:50:21Z
Originally Posted by: Prudence94 

Wait what do you mean? [:confu:] What Deck can Spam level 3? I can only think of Madolche....



I actually made this Rank 3 Deck for fun [:tongue:]
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NinjaUgal
2014-04-08T15:55:01Z
Originally Posted by: jacollo 

Last year we got Rank 7 spam(Dragon Rulers), this year we'll have Rank 5 spam(Artifacts). Following this tendency next year we'll get a Rank 3 spam something....



i see, i dont follow that.
and next 2 years are level 1 spammers?
it makes me remember of mokey-mokey
if i remember mokey-mokey, it makes me remember 4Realman.
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rob26
2014-04-08T15:58:48Z
Originally Posted by: Emiliavance 

Originally Posted by: Prudence94 

Wait what do you mean? [:confu:] What Deck can Spam level 3? I can only think of Madolche....



I actually made this Rank 3 Deck for fun [:tongue:]



Lol i made a level deck some time ago, i used many lv3 with special summon effect, we used mostly the same monsters... still my deck evolve the rank 3 to 5, making it more powerfull... i deleted it but i have the replays, dunno why but they give me error Dx
http://www.mediafire.com...4/Astral_Force_3-5-7.ydk